>richj at pixi.com (Richard Jacobson) wrote:
>>On Thu, 11 Jan 1996 11:05:56, finkel at links.com (Richard Finkelstein)
>>>There may not be lynching but there would be a large
>>outcry from the populace as the study was occurring
>>and polio and other diseases which had been under
>>control rear their ugly heads.
>>The mortality statistics (I keep repeating this; are my posts making it
>to the board?!!) indicate decades long declines prior to vaccination
>(except polio; less than a decade, but clearly established
>pre-vaccine)...based on this it is likely that diseases would only "rear
>their ugly heads" in the stats from Drs. who began actually reporting the
>cases they had already been encountering (one study found that 3% of NY
>Drs. report measles cases, for example), and (mis)diagnosing more cases
>where they don't exist (which has been documented--see earlier post).
You are defeating your own argument here. If diseases are under-reported,
how do you know that these diseases were in decline?
>Meanwhile, with no likely significant change in mortality and incidence,
>there would be a dramatic decline in vaccine adverse events and
>corresponding chronic disease and dysfunction.
>>>>>>>>But you would not be reckless in conducting an experiment
>>where in all likelihood, based upon the same kind
>>of experiment done in other countries, the incidence
>>of diseases would exponentially increase?
>>If incidence genuinely increased as you suggest (and evidence suggests
>that incidence figures reflect the postion of the health professionals
>rather than the actual occurance of disease), but mortality remains
>unchanged, then the community benefits from enhanced natural immunity
>which is permanent, as opposed to the temporary vaccine induced immunity
>(if indeed even that occurs).
I suggest you research the history of yellow fever vaccination. If you learn
how to use the library, you will find that a single vaccination provokes
lifelong immunity, just like a natural infection. However, the 17D attenuated
vaccine has never caused human illness whereas yellow fever kills 5-10% of those
that are infected. If you disagree, please include your sources.
>Alan Phillips, intercom at nando.net>>"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds."
Don't flatter yourself, Alan. Posession of a great spirit doesn't necessarily
follow from finding opposition.
Program in Immunology
Washington University - St Louis
brett at borcim.wustl.edu
"I own my own pet virus. I get to pet and name her." - Cobain