OK, all of you virii gurus. I've been encountering more and
more arguments that are anti-vaccine, and haven't heard good
counter arguments (i.e., pro-vaccine). Here are some of the
things I have come across recently from folks like Eva Sneed:
1) Vaccine cultures inevitably have other indigenous viruses
that grow on the culture and which are ultimately introduced
into the population during innoculations.
a) the original polio vaccine was cultured on green monkey
kidneys, human cancer cells, serum from calves and horses, and
pig stomach. One of companion virii introduced was SV40
(simian virus 40), which causes an aids-like disease in
hamsters. Oral polio vaccine is now tested for SV40 but the
injectible isn't. MMR is not tested for it.
b) Epstein-Barre virus has been purposefully put into the
culture medium as it causes cells to reproduce rapidly,
which is desirable from a financial consideration. This is a
primary reason for the widespread chronic fatigue syndrome that we
c) RSV (respiratory sensitivity virus) is now widespread in
kids. It is a common contaminant in vaccines.
2) Vaccines have never been proven to be effective and safe.
On the contrary, they are ineffective and unsafe.
a) 1942: Hepatitus vaccination in the military resulted in
the worst hep epidemic in US - over 50,000 cases.
b) Almost every polio case in last 15 years have been a
result of vaccination or contacted via relatives living in same
house. (Cited: JAMA 3/13/87: 1973-84 76% of polio cases from
c) 1967: The adeno virus vaccine resulted in up to 38% more
men coming down with rubella than the unvaccinated.
d) 1976: swine flu vaccination resulted in 14-24% becoming ill
e) 1985-86: 60% of measles from measles vaccine (Cited: NEJM 1989)
3) Separate point about DPT, cuz there seems to widespread
DPT affects breathing for almost 60 days after innoculation.
Crib deaths are almost always after DPT. There is no way to
distinguish between crib death and vaccination death (and death
certificates never say vaccine death). In Australia, DPT was
made optional and 50% of families opted out; the incidence of
crib death then dropped by 50%. In Japan, DPT was prohibited
in infants less two years of age; this resulted in the lowest
incidence of sids in the world. It was later made optional,
and crib death quadrupled (reported by Cherry in 1988 Pediatric
Supplement, p 973).
4) All studies claiming vaccine efficacy were performed in the last
10 years of a natural decrease of the disease. In many cases,
there was a 90% decline of diseases before the introduction of
I hate one-sided arguments, but haven't heard direct counters
to these statements. How about filling in the other side of
the coin? (I have cross-posted this on misc.health.alternative
as a number of skeptics seem to hang out there).