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CFV: sci.environment.waste - Deadline: 26 Mar 1997

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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group sci.environment.waste

Newsgroups line:
sci.environment.waste	Impact of Wastes and Waste Management Methods.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Mar 1997.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Wolfgang Bujatti <sea-life at pacific-ocean.com>
Mentor: Jonathan Grobe <grobe at netins.net>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal at alpha.hut.fi>

RATIONALE: sci.environment.waste

Keywords: waste management, hazardous waste, garbage, refuse,
industrial waste, municipal solid waste, domestic refuse, source
collecting and fractioning of wastes, waste processing, reuse,
incineration, waste treatment, conditioning to inert them, waste
composting, hazard potential for subsequent generations, greenhouse

The increasing quantity and the hazards of wastes evolved to a
very serious environmental problem. They can impair the general well-
being of man, animals, vegetation, their basis of existence or their
natural environment.

Waste-related discussions are currently taking place on environmental
newsgroups - particularly on sci.environment - but as this topic needs
an integrated approch by environmentalists, biologists, ecologists,
chemists, technicians and lawyers the Usenet community would be better
served by a more specific forum. Moreover it would ease the traffic at
sci.environment (about 30 postings a day).

This newsgroup is proposed to provide a forum for scientific
discussion on the one hand by people who are interested in the
effects which their wastes can take on our natural environment
(soil, water, air and the seas) and on the other hand by
people involved in collecting, fractioning, processing, treating,
or dumping wastes or other waste management methods.

This group is proposed as unmoderated group. A moderation should be
last precaution against off-topic posts, spam, or repetitive flaming
(attacks). As this newsgroup has the aim to bring together very
groups of people it wouldn't be easy for a moderator to filter the
to serve all. Sci.environment is an unmoderated group too.

This group is not being created as sci.bio.ecology.waste,
sci.engr.environment.waste or misc.legal.waste as it is intended
to maintain a scientifically and factually based focus of all
topics rather than a primarily opinion based focus nor an only
specific biological, technical or legal talk.

I've chosen the label waste instead of a more specific description
(such as recycling or dumping) since this is the usual description for
departements of administrations, non governmental organisations and

CHARTER: sci.environment.waste

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a world wide forum for a
serious discussion by people who try to reduce wastes, which are
with collecting, fractioning, processing, treating, recycling or
wastes or with other waste management methods or people which treat
so that they can reused for a different purpose, as well as by people,
who are cronfronted with the dangers of wastes in everyday life.

To assist governments, NGOs, environmentalists and scientists in the
acquisition of scientific and legal waste-related information as well
as an
informative arena on the many different world wide techniques of
conditioning, recycling and reusing wastes.

Specific topics may include but are not limited to:

+ the many different types of wastes and their effection on the
  ecosystems in the soil, the rivers, the atmosphere and the seas and
+ industrial and municipal solid waste (domestic refuse)
+ dumping (nowadays or in the past) of toxic wastes in landfill sites
+ sealing and watertighten of landfill sites and underground dumping
+ different world-wide skills and techniques of waste reduction in the
  production-process, of processing, treating, recycling and reusing
  and other waste management methods
+ environmental impact of waste treating plants and landfill sites
+ pros and cons of waste incineration and the rank of its spent air
+ waste-to-energy
+ specific problems of transport of hazardous wastes on land, air and
+ pacticable collection systems
+ wastewater and sludges use, composting
+ reuse of tyres, waste-paper, packings, etc.
+ hazards of waste batteries, neon tubes, refrigerator-liquid,
synthetics, etc.
+ greenhouse gases

The following types of posts are strictly PROHIBITED in this

* Material and advertisments unrelated to conditioning, recycling, and
  impact of wastes (off-topic)
* Spam (defined as articles posted to more than 5 newsgroups)
* Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
* Forged posts (anonymous posts are allowed)
* Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)

The use of e-mail addresses from articles posted to this group for the
purpose of sending junk (mass unsolicited) e-mail or for compiling a
list so that others may do so is specifically PROHIBITED.

Binaries are only allowed by adding format or extension in the subject
line. On-topic advertising and employment (help and/or position
noticesis are limited to once per week. Please send such post only on

Discussions about saving the nature without context to wastes should
take place on sci.environment or sci.bio.conservation, and the talk
energy-production (with the only exception of waste-to-energy
and production techniques (with the only exception of waste reduction
in the
production-process) should better take place on sci.energy or on the
sci.engr hierarchy.

The general "netiquette" FAQs posted in news.announce.newusers and
news.answers apply to the proposed group. Participants are encouraged
use descriptive Subjects (e.g., "Burning PCBs" rather than just "Help"

In the absence of moderation, prohibitions can, of course, only be
enforced by the collective will of the group and/or by after-the-fact
complaints to the offender's service provider.



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In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV
and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to these mailing lists:

Mailing list name: waste
Submission address: waste at cedar.univie.ac.at
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This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0beta (Feb 23 1997).
PQ datestamp: 970122

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