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Deities cannot exist because of their consciousness

keith keithj43 at yahoo.com
Sat Dec 27 21:04:13 EST 2003


"Wolf Kirchmeir" <wwolfkir at sympatico.can> wrote in message news:<jbysxveflzcngvpbpna.hqkbh33.pminews at news1.sympatico.ca>...
> On 26 Dec 2003 19:38:03 -0800, keith wrote:
> 
> >> and b), the run the risk that any future discovery about
> >> these things could falsify the assumptions about them, and therefore render
> >> god's existence logically indeterminate.
> >
> >
> >I don't agree that this would make God's existence logically
> >indeterminant. 
> 
> If you don't agree, then you don't understand the logic of the argument. Or
> else you suffer from the common misconception that seeing the validity of an
> argument is the same as accepting the truth of its conclusions. (And it's
> "indetermiNATE", please note - the word has a precise meaning in logic, and
> should be spelled correctly.)


I thknk I do understand the logic. If the premises of an argument are
proved to be false, we then learn the argument was not sound. But that
doesn't mean some other argument for God wouldn't be sound--if that
other argument is sound then God's existence would be determinable by
logic apllied to the premises of that other argument.
> 
> >However, if the reasons they (allegedly) know that God
> >exists turn out to be wrong then the fact is they *don't* know that
> >God exists.
> 
> That's precisely what I said.


I took "indeterminate" to mean "*couldn't* be known, not didn't happen
to *be* known".

keith



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