"Taliesin of Earthstar" <taliesin_o at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote in message
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> > "Taliesin of Earthstar" <taliesin_o at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:784a6704.0209070441.7b464f8a at posting.google.com...> > > "John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote in message
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> > > John, are you so blinded by your pride that you can see nothing, save
> > > that pride?
> > >
> > > > John 8:39 "They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father.
> > > > Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do
the
> > > > works of Abraham."
> > >
> > > The Pharisees that Jesus spoke to were, indeed, _physical_ descendants
> > > of Abraham, but by their pride they had abandoned their Covenant. In
> > > your case, as in theirs, Jesus would say "You are of your father the
> > > Devil."
> > >
> > > That being the case, you and I have nothing to discuss.
> > >
> > > Justin / Taliesin of Earthstar.
> >
> >
> >
> > They were jews.
>> So was Jesus. No matter how you want to redefine the words, and no
> matter how you twist and distort your own scriptures to attempt to do
> so, you cannot evade this fact and retain any honesty.
>> If you do not want to be reminded of this fact, then drop
> alt.religion.wicca from your posts.
>> Justin / Taliesin of Earthstar
No. Jesus Christ, His Twelve Disciples, most of the 2 billion Christians in
the world today, are descendants of Jacob, which makes them descendants of
the Israelites, if not actual Israelites themselves.
Conversely, by Israelite law, no jew has ever been an Israelite, and
claiming that Jesus was a "jew" is blasphemy.
Here's what Jesus said about Israelites:
He said in reply, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of
Israel." Matthew 15:24
"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go
not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter
ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye
go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 10:5-9
Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and said about him, "Behold, an Israelite
indeed, in whom is no deceit!" John 1:47
And here's what Jesus and other said about jews:
"you brood of vipers", they will be "thrown into the fire", "hypocrites!",
"babbling like pagans", "wicked", "adulterous", "Ninevah will ... condemn
[you]", "you break the command of God", "teachings are but rules taught by
men", "will be pulled up by the roots", "blind guides", "blind man", "guard
against ... the teachings of the Pharisees and Sadducees", "you yourself do
not enter ... the kingdom of heaven", "blind fools", "blind men", "Blind
Pharisee", "you are like whitewashed tombs", "you are the descendants of
those who murdered the prophets", "you snakes", "condemned to hell",
"Pharisees ... rejected God's purpose for themselves", "you foolish people",
"you are like unmarked graves", "you build tombs for the prophets, yet it
was your forefathers who killed them", "will be held responsible for the
blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the
world"
Do you see any difference?
John Knight
