"Taliesin of Earthstar" <taliesin_o at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote in message
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>> John, are you so blinded by your pride that you can see nothing, save
> that pride?
>> > John 8:39 "They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father.
> > Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the
> > works of Abraham."
>> The Pharisees that Jesus spoke to were, indeed, _physical_ descendants
> of Abraham, but by their pride they had abandoned their Covenant. In
> your case, as in theirs, Jesus would say "You are of your father the
> Devil."
>> That being the case, you and I have nothing to discuss.
>> Justin / Taliesin of Earthstar.
They were jews.
By Israelite law, jews could not be Israelites.
They were attempting to usurp the Israelite heritage, including Shem by
claiming to be Semites, including Eber by claiming to be Hebrews, including
Abraham by claiming to be his descendants even though they were 99.9999%
Canaanite, and even including Jacob by claiming to be Israelites--just as
the jews are doing today.
Yes, Jesus called them LIARS, but He also told them exactly WHY they were
LIARS--He told them they were direct descendants of the devil:
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye
will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth,
because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his
own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
This is a direct reference to their ancestry, not their state of mind. He
made it explicit that they were NOT of the same ancestry as He Himself, and
He made it abundantly clear that He was a descendant of Abraham.
John Knight