In article <784a6704.0209061404.4cd2bf83 at posting.google.com> taliesin_o at hotmail.com (Taliesin of Earthstar) writes:
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<"John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote in message news:<uxSd9.54015$Ic7.3895626 at news2.west.cox.net>...
<> "Taliesin of Earthstar" <taliesin_o at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<> You're correct that the Israelites were descendants of Shem, which makes
<> them Semites. And the jews who claim that they aren't Semites [read:
<> descendants of Shem] are correct, but it's not clear that their claim that
<> they're descendants of Ashkenaz is correct.
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<Laddiebuck, has anyone ever explained the concept of "Fallacy of
<ambiguity?"
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<> However, there were several million Israelites with Moses when he left
<> Egypt, and it was the Israelites who dispersed to all parts of the world,
<> particularly to Europe and Ireland. Every European nation is aware of it's
<> Israelite ancestry, so you're going to have a hard time convincing them
<> otherwise
<> http://christianparty.net/gaelic.htm
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<If the Celts were of Hebrew ancestry (there is, incidentally, no
<genetic link, but let's be hypothetical for a moment, shall we), they
<had abandoned the Covenant long before they moved to Galicia. They
<worshipped multiple Gods, ate pork, collected the heads of their
<enemies, some of them ran around naked except for the lime or woad
<they had painted on their bodies. Prostitution and concubinage were
<not only allowed, but legally sanctioned, and they may have engaged in
<human sacrificial rites. (Historic evidenceis a bit unclear on that
<last point). Assuming that the Judeo-Christian myths are the proper
<context here, if the Celts had been the purported "10 Lost Tribes,"
<Yahweh would have booted their asses out of the Covenant so fast that
<their descendant's still would not have hit the ground.
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Whoa... hey, you know, now that you mention it... :-}
<John, I've noticed that some Christians are able to accept that they
<(again, according to their myths) are "adopted" sons of Abraham
<without trying to push the "firstborn" out of the way. And I've
<noticed that some who claim to be Christian seem to think that the
<only way that they can "prove" their "fitness" is to dispariage the
<Jews. Which category do you fall in?
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<That's a serious question, John -- not a flame, an insult, or a troll.
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Please, then, allow me: John falls into a noticibly distinct group --
nominal Christians who are nowhere near ready to go in for all
that Jesus stuff -- mercy and charity and self-sacrifice and
loving those who hate you -- they're by temperament far more
comfortable with the Old Testament ambiance, all that smiting
and abominating and all-around tribalistic xenophobia. Reflexively
exclusive, not inclusive, by nature, they look about for something to
support their us-vs-them tendencies, and it's obvious where that's
to be found. Only problem: YWH clearly wasn't talking to us.
As a matter of fact, YWH spends a great deal of time warning the
Chosen against the likes of us. So what's a bigot to do when
faced with such roaring cognitive dissonance?
You've seen the answer to that. Not pretty, is it?
-- cary