"Cary Kittrell" <cary at afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <4q7d9.43063$Ic7.3242670 at news2.west.cox.net> "John Knight"
<jwknight at polbox.com> writes:
> <
> <"Cary Kittrell" <cary at afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
> <news:al2nm6$gd1$1 at oasis.ccit.arizona.edu...> <> In article <qfsc9.38178$Ic7.2586574 at news2.west.cox.net> "John Knight"
> <<jwknight at polbox.com> writes:
> <> <"Cary Kittrell" <cary at afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
> <> <news:akot8o$8ne$1 at oasis.ccit.arizona.edu...> <> <> In article <VSPb9.28985$Ic7.2102701 at news2.west.cox.net> "John
Knight"
> <> <<jwknight at polbox.com> writes:
> <> <> <
> <> <>
> <> <> {...}
> <> <>
> <> <>
> <> <> <
> <> <> < It's become abundantly clear that as long as you jews are here,
only
> <> <1.9% of
> <> <> < the population gets "free exercise [of religion]" and the other
98.1%
> <> <> < doesn't.
> <> <>
> <> <>
> <> <> Really? Your kids were forced to recite the Shema every morning in
> <> <> school? If so, that's an outrage, and the ACLU will cheerfully help
> <you
> <> <> put a stop to it.
> <> <>
> <> <>
> <> <> -- cary
> <> <
> <> <"Free exercise [of religion]" doesn't mean not forcing our children to
> <> <practice Talmudism.
> <> <
> <> <It means not ever having to listen to, see, hear about, be near, or
smell
> <a
> <> <jew, a nigger, a Mexican, or any other mud or "liberal" around.
> <> <
> <> <It means *removing* them from our midst.
> <> <
> <> <You have not yet produced even one single reason that White Christian
> <> <Israelite children shouldn't be protected from their garbage, have
you?
> <> <
> <>
> <> John Coltrane.
> <>
> <>
> <
> <Yes, exactly.
> <
> <Thank you for this demonstration of exactly the kind of invasion of
privacy
> <that White Christian Israelites just don't need to put up with. There's
no
> <need for it.
> <
>> Nobody, oddly enough for your thesis, forced me to listen to Coltrane.
> But I'm eternally grateful the the white boy who convinced me that I
should.
>>> <You and nigger Coltrane can just move on down to Africa and play all the
> <saxaphones you find there, and leave this White Christian Israelite
nation
> <alone.
> <
>> Only if you can find a Ouijaphone. An Eb alto would be nice.
>>> Only mildly tangentially, I recall you've avoided many queries
> about what's in your whitebread CD collection, John. Marches?
> Lawrence Welk? POLKAS?!?!
>> Oh, the humanity...
>>> -- cary
We destroyed all the nigger music around here lately. You wouldn't believe
how many shards of plastic you can create from a pile on nigger CDs. Along
with the nigger music there was probably plenty of normal music--but so
what? Getting rid of the following garbage was well worth it.
John Knight
http://christianparty.net/rap.htm
Source: http://home.att.net/~phosphor/
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Of the artists at issue, hundreds of millions of copies of their
CD's have been sold over the last ten years. It should be kept
in mind that the groups included below are a small sample of all
the hip-hop groups which have put out "kill-the-whites
messages." Because there is far more out there than the
researchers of this web site have time or resources to uncover,
interested readers are encouraged to dig up violently racist
lyrics and present them for public scrutiny. Here are some
examples:
"Kill the white people; we gonna make them hurt; kill the white
people; but buy my record first; ha, ha, ha"; "Kill d'White
People"; --Apache, Apache Ain't Shit, 1993, Tommy Boy Music,
Time Warner, USA.
"Niggas in the church say: kill whitey all night long. . . . the
white man is the devil. . . . the CRIPS and Bloods are soldiers
I'm recruiting with no dispute; drive-by shooting on this white
genetic mutant. . . . let's go and kill some rednecks. . . .
Menace Clan ain't afraid. . . . I got the .380; the homies think
I'm crazy because I shot a white baby; I said; I said; I said:
kill whitey all night long. . . . a nigga dumping on your white
ass; fuck this rap shit, nigga, I'm gonna blast. . . . I beat a
white boy to the motherfucking ground"; "Kill Whitey"; --Menace
Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records,
subsidiaries of what was called Thorn EMI and now is called The
EMI Group, United Kingdom.
"Devils fear this brand new shit. . . . I bleed them next time I
see them. . . . I prey on these devils. . . . look what it has
come to; who you gonna run to when we get to mobbing. . . .
filling his body up with lead, yah; cracker in my way; slitting,
slit his throat; watch his body shake; watch his body shake;
that's how we do it in the motherfucking [San Francisco] Bay. . .
. Sitting on the dock of the dirty with my AK"; "Heat-featuring
Jet and Spice1"; --Paris, Unleashed, 1998, Unleashed Records,
Whirling Records.
"These devils make me sick; I love to fill them full of holes;
kill them all in the daytime, broad motherfucking daylight; 12
o'clock, grab the Glock; why wait for night"; "Sweatin Bullets";
--Brand Nubian, Everything Is Everything, 1994, Elektra
Entertainment, Warner Communications, Time Warner, USA.
"A fight, a fight, a nigger and a white, if the nigger don't win
then we all jump in. . . . smoking all [of] America's white
boys"; --"A Fight"; Apache, Apache Ain't Shit, 1993, Tommy Boy
Music, Time Warner, USA.
"I kill a devil right now. . . . I say kill whitey all nightey
long. . . .I stabbed a fucking Jew with a steeple. . . . I would
kill a cracker for nothing, just for the fuck of it. . . .
Menace Clan kill a cracker; jack 'em even quicker. . . . catch
that devil slipping; blow his fucking brains out"; "Fuck a Record
Deal"; -- Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo
Trybe Records, subsidiaries of Thorn EMI; called The EMI Group
since 1997, United Kingdom.
"Now I'm black but black people trip [become upset] 'cause white
people like me; white people like me but don't like them. . . .
I don't hate whites, I just gotta death wish for motherfuckers
that ain't right"; --"Race War"; Ice-T, Home Invasion, 1993,
Priority Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United
Kingdom.
"To all my Universal Soldier's: stay at attention while I
strategize an invasion; the mission be assassination, snipers
hitting Caucasians with semi-automatic shots heard around the
world; my plot is to control the globe and hold the world
hostage. . . . see, I got a war plan more deadlier than Hitler.
. . . lyrical specialist, underworld terrorist. . . . keep the
unity thick like mud. . . . I pulling out gats [handguns],
launching deadly attacks"; --"Blood for Blood"; Killarmy, Silent
Weapons for Quiet Wars, 1997, Wu-Tang Records, Priority Records,
The EMI Group, United Kingdom.
"Lead to the head of you devils"; "Lick Dem Muthaphuckas-Remix";
--Brand Nubian, Everything Is Everything, 1994, Elektra
Entertainment, Warner Communications, Time Warner, USA.
"This will all be over in '99, so, niggas, give devils the crime;
gonna be more devils dying"; --"No Surrender"; Bone
Thugs-N-Harmony, Creepin on ah Come Up, 1994, Ruthless Records,
Epic Records, Sony Music Entertainment, Sony, Japan.
"Won't be satisfied until the devils-I see them all dead. . . .
my brother is sending me more guns from down South. . . . pale
face. . . . it's all about brothers rising up, wising up, sizing
up our situation. . . . you be fucking with my turf when you be
fucking with my race; now face your maker and take your last
breadth; the time is half-past death. . . . it's the Armageddon.
. . . go into the garage; find that old camouflage. . . .
cracker-shooting nightly"; --"What the Fuck"; Brand Nubian,
Everything Is Everything, 1994, Elektra Entertainment, Warner
Communications, Time Warner, USA.
".44 ways to get paid. . . . I'm through with talking to these
devils; now I'm ready to blast"; --"44 Wayz-featuring Mystic";
Paris, Unleashed, 1998, Unleashed Records, Whirling Records.
"Like my niggas from South Central Los Angeles they found that
they couldn't handle us; Bloods, CRIPS, on the same squad, with
the Essays [Latino gangbangers] up, and nigga, it's time to rob
and mob and break the white man off something lovely"; --"The
Day the Niggaz Took Over"; Dr Dre, The Chronic, 1993, Interscope
Records, under Time Warner in 1993.
"Bust a Glock; devils get shot. . . . when God give the word me
herd like the buffalo through the neighborhood; watch me blast.
. . . I'm killing more crackers than Bosnia-Herzegovina, each
and everyday. . . . don't bust until you see the whites of his
eyes, the whites of his skin. . . . Louis Farrakhan . . . Bloods
and CRIPS, and little old me, and we all getting ready for the
enemy"; -- "Enemy"; Ice Cube, Lethal Injection, 1993, Priority
Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.
"Devil, to gangbanging there's a positive side and the positive
side is this-sooner than later the brothers will come to Islam,
and they will be the soldiers for the war; what war, you ask;
Armageddon; ha, ha, ha, ha, ha"; "Armageddon"; -- RBX, The RBX
Files, 1995, Premeditated Records, Warner Brother Records, Time
Warner, USA.
"Subtract the devils that get smoked. . . . we're people, black
people; steal your mind back, don't die in their wilderness. . .
. let's point our heaters [handguns] the other way"; --"Dial 7";
Digable Planets, Blowout Comb, 1994, Pendulum Records, Thorn EMI;
now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.
"Get them devil-made guns and leave them demons bleeding; give
them back whips, and just feed them bullets"; --"Wicked Ways";
Sunz of Man, One Million Strong: The Album, 1995, Mergela
Records, Solar/Hines Co., Prolific Records.
"It's time to send the devil to the essence. . . this is a must
because there ain't no reform or trust; you got a Glock and you
see a devil, bust... . they'll be calling us the trigger men,
the nappy-knotty red-beard devil-assassin; Lord make a law; at
midnight I'll be bashing. . . . field niggas [are] locked in
until 2005"; --"Field N#gguhz in a Huddle"; Professor Griff,
Blood of the Prophet; 1998, Lethal Records, Mercury Records,
PolyGram, Phillips' Electronics NV, Netherlands. PolyGram merged
with Universal Music Group in 1998, the parent being The Seagram
Company of Canada, owned by Edgar Bronfman.
"He preys on old white ladies [who] drive the Mercedes with the
windows cracked. . . . you should've heard the bitch screaming.
. . . sticking guns in crackers' mouths. . . . the cops can't
stop it. . . . remember 4-29-92, come on; Florence and Normandy
coming to a corner near you, cracker; we've been through your
area, mass hysteria; led by your motherfucking Menace Clan";
--"Mad Nigga"; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo
Trybe Records, Time Warner, USA.
"The black man is god. . . . buy a Tec [and] let loose in the
Vatican. . . . I love the black faces; so put your Bible in the
attic"; --"Ain't No Mystery"; Brand Nubian, In God We Trust,
1992, Elektra Entertainment, Warner Communications, Time Warner,
USA.
"Rhymes is rugged like burnt buildings in Harlem; the Ol Dirty
Bastard. . . . I'm also militant. . . . snatching devils up by
the hair, then cut his head off"; --"Cuttin Headz"; Ol Dirty
Bastard, Return of the 36 Chambers: the Dirty Version; 1995,
Elektra Entertainment, Time Warner, USA.
"Listen to this black visionary, bringing war like a
revolutionary. . . . go on a killing spree, putting devils out
their misery; hearing screams, sounds of agony; my hostility
takes over me. . . . camouflaged ninjas avenging"; --"Under
Seige"; Killarmy, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, 1997, Wu-Tang
Records, Priority Records, The EMI Group, United Kingdom.
"Swing by on the pale guy. . . . break him in the neck. . . . the
guerrilla with the poison tip. . . . shaking pinky up on a
dull-ass ice-pick . . . this is Lench Mob. . . . devil, what you
want to do; when you see the boot, knew your head is hoohoo ";
--"King of the Jungle"; Da Lench Mob, Planet of da Apes, 1994,
Priority Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United
Kingdom.
"Dropping verses, casting curses, throwing these hexes on the
devils. . . . respect to Farrakhan, but I'm the jungle-don, the
new guerrilla, top-ranked honky killer. . . . what do blacks do;
they just keep on blowing devils away. . . . evil fucking
cracker. . . . I'm tightening up the laces to my steel-toed
boots, so I can walk, stomp; we stomp this devil down in the
park"; --"Planet of da Apes"; Da Lench Mob, Planet of da Apes,
1994, Priority Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group,
United Kingdom.
"We're having thoughts of overthrowing the government. . . . the
brothers and sisters threw their fists in the air. . . . it's
open season on crackers, you know; the morgue will be full of
Caucasian John Doe's. . . . I make the Riot shit look like a
fairy tale. . . . oh my god, Allah, have mercy; I'm killing them
devils because they're not worthy to walk the earth with the
original black man; they must be forgetting; it's time for
Armageddon, and I won't rest until they're all dead"; --"Goin
Bananas"; Da Lench Mob, Planet of da Apes, 1994, Priority
Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.
"The crackers ain't shit; chase them out of the jungle; now raise
up off the planet. . . . we get the 12 gauge; shot to the chest.
. . . we hitting devils up. . . . Da Lench Mob, environmental
terrorist. . . . I gripped the Glock and had to knock his head
from his shoulders. . . . I got the .30[6] on the rooftop; pop;
pop; so many devils die. . . . make sure I kill them. . . . lynch
a thousand a week if it's necessary"; --"Environmental
Terrorist"; Da Lench Mob, Planet of da Apes, 1994, Priority
Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.
"Like an armed struggle. . . . I come with the New Wu Order. . .
. waging war on the devils' community. . . . whipped cardinals
and one Pope"; --"Universal Soldiers"; Killarmy, Silent Weapons
for Quiet Wars, 1997, Wu-Tang Records, Priority Records, The EMI
Group, United Kingdom.
"Swinging out of the trees, is the blood-spilling, devil-killing,
nappy-headed g.'s. . . . blacks and Mexicans must take a stand. .
. . I'm down with Chico, and not with the man"; --"Set the Shit
Straight"; Da Lench Mob, Planet of da Apes, 1994, Priority
Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.
"Fuck them laws, because the Mob is coming raw; nigga, is you
down because it's the Final Call. . . . grab your gat; know the
three will start busting; I'm trying to take them down. . . . the
war of wars with no fucking scores. . . . April 29 was a chance
to realize . . . the g.'s are out to kill. . . . we got crackers
to kill; sending them back in on a ship to Europe. . . . they
deserve it. . . . a nation-wide riot across America. . . . this
is the Final Call on black man and black woman, rich and poor;
rise up"; --"Final Call"; Da Lench Mob, Planet of da Apes, 1994,
Priority Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United
Kingdom.
"I come with the wicked style. . . . I got everybody jumping to
the voodoo. . . . I got a gat and I'm looking out the window like
Malcolm. . . . April 29 was power to the people, and we just
might see a sequel"; --"Wicked"; Ice Cube, The Predator, 1992,
Priority Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United
Kingdom.
"Deal with the devil with my motherfucking steel [handgun]. . . .
white man is something I tried to study, but I got my hands
bloody, yeah. . . . I met Farrakhan and had dinner"; --"When
Will They Shoot"; Ice Cube, The Predator, 1992, Priority Records,
Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.
"Actual fact you need to be black. . . . everyday I fight a
devil. . . . I grab a shovel to bury a devil. . . . the battle
with the beast, Mr. 666. . . . my mind rolled to a 7th level;
grab my bazooka and nuke a devil. . . . with black, I build; for
black, I kill"; --"Fightin the Devil"; RBX, The RBX Files, 1995,
Premeditated Records, Warner Brother Records, Time Warner, USA.
"I pledge allegiance to only the black. . . . black, you had best
prepare for the coming of war. . . . look at you devil; now
you're sweating; I'm telling you: you can't run from the hand of
Armageddon. . . . he eats his pig-steak rare so he can taste the
blood"; --"No Time"; RBX, The RBX Files, 1995, Premeditated
Records, Warner Brother Records, Time Warner, USA.
"Killing devils [and] scatter they ashes over the sea of
Mediterranean . . . . open your eyes to the revolution. . . .
unite with the black coalition"; --"Wake Up"; Killarmy, Silent
Weapons for Quiet Wars, 1997, Wu-Tang Records, Priority Records,
The EMI Group, United Kingdom.
"My own kind blind, brain-trained on the devil-level. . . .
chasing down loot, Dole or Newt, who do you shoot. . . . rough
stuff to the babies, spread like rabies"; --"Niggativity . . .
Do I Dare Disturb the Universe"; Chuck D, Autobiography of
MistaChuck, 1996, Mercury Records, PolyGram, Phillips'
Electronics NV, Netherlands. PolyGram merged within Universal
Music Group in 1998, the parent being The Seagram Company,
Canada.
"Buck the devil; boom. . . . shoot you with my .22; I got plenty
of crew; I take out white boys. . . . we got big toys with the
one-mile scope, taking whitey's throat"; --"Buck tha Devil"; Da
Lench Mob, Guerrillas in tha Mist, 1992, Eastwest Records
America, Elektra, Atlantic, Time Warner, USA.
"Little devils don't go to heaven. . . . the AK forty . . . hold
a fifty clip, and I'll shoot until it's empty. . . . I'm killing
only seven million civilians. . . . one dead devil"; "Freedom
Got an AK"; Da Lench Mob, Guerrillas in tha Mist, 1992, Eastwest
Records America, Elektra, Atlantic, Time Warner, USA.
"Grab your deep-ass crews. . . . we gotta make them ends, even if
it means Jack and friends. . . . now you're doomed, hollow-points
to the dome; once again it's on. . . . out comes my .22. . . .
I'm the cut-throat; now I got to cut you . . . '94 is the season
for lynching; from out of the dark is the South Central g.,
ready-hand steady on a bloody machete. . . . a devil is on my
shoulder; should I kill it; hell yah. . . . I slice Jack. . . .
took an axe, and gave that bitch, Jill, forty wacks. . . . with
my hip hop . . . it don't stop, until heads roll off the cutting
block"; --"Cut Throats"; Da Lench Mob, Planet of da Apes, 1994,
Priority Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United
Kingdom.
"A young fugitive soldier. . . . soon to make the devil kneel";
--"Not Promised Tomorrow"; Sunz of Man, Sunz of Man: The Last
Shall Be First, 1998, Threat Records, Wu-Tang Records, Red Ant
Entertainment, BMG Distribution, BMG Entertainment, Bertelsmann
AG of Germany.
"Camouflaged for the mission. . . . become Bonnie and Clyde;
carry .45's in these last days. . . . an original black man with
a plan to run these devils off our motherfucking land. . . . the
Sunz of Man war track. . . . kept gun in hand, stalking the
land"; --"Can I See You"; Sunz of Man, Sunz of Man: The Last
Shall Be First, 1998, Threat Records, Wu-Tang Records, Red Ant
Entertainment, BMG Distribution, BMG Entertainment, Bertelsmann,
Germany.
"I may die in the scuffle but I'm taking forty devils"; --"The
City"; Wu-Tang Clan, Wu-Tang Forever, 1997, Loud Records, Wu-Tang
Productions, RCA Records, BMG Distribution, BMG Entertainment,
Bertelsmann, Germany.
"Roping up the devils, have them hanging from my testicles";
--"Nowhere To Run"; Gravediggaz, 6 Feet Deep, 1997 reissue of a
1994 album, Gee Street Records, BMG Distribution, BMG
Entertainment, Bertelsmann AG, Germany.
"Devils get baked. . . . devils are all defeated. . . . breaking
devils down"; "Blood Brothers"; Gravediggaz, 6 Feet Deep, 1997
reissue of a 1994 album, Gee Street Records, BMG Distribution,
BMG Entertainment, Bertelsmann AG, Germany.
"I love black women and I hate fucking crackers. . . . I
destroyed a whole city like Sodom and Gomorrah or Babylon. . . .
devils choke from the gunsmoke. . . . I'm swelling devils'
melons. . . . send your asses to Kings County; solo pro-morgue
supplier"; --"Graveyard Chamber"; Gravediggaz, 6 Feet Deep, 1997
reissue of a 1994 album, Gee Street Records, BMG Distribution,
BMG Entertainment, Bertelsmann AG, Germany.
"I'm hanging devils' heads on a evergreen bush"; --"Dangerous
Mindz"; Gravediggaz, The Pick The Sickle and The Shovel, 1997,
Gee Street Records, BMG Distribution, BMG Entertainment,
Bertelsmann, Germany.
"Cloud, which means to overshadow the other man, mess up his game
plan. . . . South Park Black Panther coming at last. . . . I
need more brothers to roll over the government. . . . I got the
nine [millimeter pistol], the mind, and the time to unwind
new-school pro-black dope [great] rhymes. . . . there's 10,000
of us; how you gonna stop this bum-rush, fool. . . . talk is
cheap; you best believe that, black; actions speak louder than
words, and that's a fact"; --"Cloud on Suckas"; The Terrorists,
Terror Strikes: Always Bizness Never
Personal, 1991, Rap-A-Lot Records, Priority Records, Thorn EMI,
United Kingdom. Rap-A-Lot Records was owned by Virgin Records
for about four years before 1999, when it joined back with
Priority. Thorn EMI changed its name in 1998 to EMI Group.
"I'm black with a bat, swinging at the head of a honky. . . . The
Terrorists about to murder your ass"; --"Blow Dem Hoes Up"; The
Terrorists, Terror Strikes: Always Bizness Never Personal, 1991,
Rap-A-Lot Records, Priority Records, Thorn EMI, United Kingdom.
"Squeeze your nostrils tight and gag your mouth with a Bud Light;
peace to all the blacks. . . . The Terrorists kicking political
rough shit and we won't quit until the other man's throat slit
from one ear to the other"; --"Bomb Threat"; The Terrorists,
Terror Strikes: Always Bizness Never Personal, 1991, Rap-A-Lot
Records, Priority Records, Thorn EMI, United Kingdom.
"A fight, a nigger and a white, if the nigger don't win then we
all jump in"; --"Ghetto Mentalitee"; Onyx, All We Got Iz Us,
1995, Rush Associated Labels Recordings, PolyGram Group
Distribution, Phillips' Elecronics, Netherlands.
"Waiting for the crackers; smuggle; his mug is in the gutters. .
. . so we need your participation in the Caucasian
assassination; time is wasting. . . . so who is in association
with the nigger retaliation; it needs your total cooperation. .
. . a confrontation will be fought by the younger generation;
because we got determination; all we need is organization";
--"Purse Snatchers"; Onyx, All We Got Iz Us, 1995, Rush
Associated Labels Recordings, PolyGram Group Distribution,
Phillips' Elecronics, Netherlands.
"The real black army is in jail. . . . come on my fellow
prisoners, time to go to war. . . . what we need to do is point
the guns in the right direction, aha. . . . me and my piece came
to claim the brown man's cut. . . . infiltrate until it burns
down. . . . what we need to be talking about is what we gonna do
to them; I'll get revenge if it's the last thing I do. . . .
they got us brainwashed to be the minority, but when we kill them
off we gonna be the majority. . . . if the whites speak up, then
I'll lead my people, because two wrongs don't make it right but
it damn sure make us equal; I'm inciting riots, so let's start
the looting. . . . in this revolution I loathe my enemy";
"2Wrongs"; Onyx, All We Got Iz Us, 1995, Rush Associated Labels
Recordings, PolyGram Group Distribution, Phillips' Elecronics,
Netherlands.
Posted at http://home.att.net/~phosphor on June 30, 1999.
Updates: 8-10-99: The Terrorists, 1991 album; 8-10-99: Onyx, 1995
album; 8-10-99: Gravediggaz, 1994 album.
The current broad interpretation of free speech to include
topless dancing and lyrics like the above is a modern rhetorical
perversion, that could not possibly have been foreseen by the
founding fathers.