John Knight wrote in message
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>>"Kenneth Collins" <k.p.collins at worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>news:013d9.8354$jG2.622019 at bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...>>>> John Knight wrote in message ...
>> >
>> >"You shall do no injustice in judgment; you shall not be partial
to
>> the poor
>> >or defer to the great, but in righteousness shall you judge your
>> neighbor",
>> >Leviticus 19:15
>>>> "In righteousness" - in-Truth - Truth is that every 'poor' person
>> I've ever come across, except folks suffering disease conditions,
was
>> 'poor' because of stuff with respect to which she/he was Innocent.
>>>> "Righteousness" is telling-it-as-it-is with respect to such.
>>>>And that means removing from the community "every brother that
walketh
>disorderly", or who don't follow God's Commandments, doesn't it?
>>> >"You shall not show partiality in judgment; you shall hear the
small
>> as well
>> >as the great; you shall not be afraid in any man's presence, for
the
>> >judgment is God's", Deuteronomy 1:17
>>>> Even if he's a bafoon.
>>>>This makes no sense. Of course nobody's afraid of a "bafoon". This
is a
>reference to those in power who pretend to follow God's Commandments
but
>don't. This instruction is to judge even them, so it actually
excludes
>"bafoons".
>>>> >"...we command you, brethren, on the name of our Lord Jesus
Christ,
>> that ye
>> >withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly,
and
>> not
>> >after the tradition which he received of us", 2 Thessalonians 3:6
>>>> But, "First, remove the log from your own eye [...]"
>>>>Of course.
>>>> >"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what
>> fellowship
>> >hath righteousness with unrighteousness?" 2 Corinthians 6:14
>>>> "Love your enemies."
>>>>But don't live with them.
>>Don't let them into your community. Don't subsidize them. Don't
put them
>in positions of power or authority.
>>>> "Do good to those who persecute you"
>>>>Which appears absolutely no place in the Holy Bible.
>>> "Turn the other cheek."
>>>> "Go the extra mile."
>>>> ~"Give 'em your shirt, too."
>>>> Clearly, you've 'selected' incompletely, eh John?
>>>> k. p. collins
>>>Here you are quoting "kpcollins"'s which have no basis in the Holy
Bible,
>and you claim that I "selected incompletely"?
>>Let's get back to the actual Word:
>>Luke 6:29 To him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the
other;
>and from him that taketh away thy cloak withhold not thy coat also.
>>There's a time and a place for this, but you can't ignore the
responsibility
>to FIRST remove "those who walketh disorderly", can you?
>>You can't invite the enemy into your community, and then expect
everyone to
>"offer also the other" if the enemy is intent on destroying the
community,
>can you?
>>You need to put this in context.
OK. Context: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
Reiterated: "Forgive seventy times seven." [that is, endlessly.]
There's more in Scripture than the 'verbal-symbols' themselves, John.
And, for another thing, the need for Forgiveness is built right into
nervous systems because nervous systems learn through experience, and
experience is over-flowing with 'blind-alley' stuff. Absent
Forgiveness, folks'd get 'stuck' in any 'bline'-alley' into which
their experience carried them.
It's =then= that Jesus Bekons: "Forgive."
And, through our Forgiveness, voila, the 'trapped' folks are nurtured
upon their way.
All this is right-there, in the Teaching of Jesus [along with
much-more, of course].
But if one elevates the 'language'-interface stuff 'above' the larger
underpinning stuff, one 'misses' what's in-there.
k. p. collins