"Zayton" <zayton at bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>> "John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote in message
> news:9Src9.38097$Ic7.2581729 at news2.west.cox.net...>>>> **Here is a classic illustration of "John Knight's insanity.
> All I have done to the following text is to delete some material so that
> what remains stands out. Except for deletions and setting my program to
post
> in plain text rather than HTMl nothing has been altered.
>>>> YHUDAH vs. YHUDIY
>>> JUDAH OR YHUDAH
> There are 771 instances of the word "Judah" in the KJV, 762 in the Old
> Testament which are translated from the Hebrew word "Jehudi", and 9 which
> are translated from the Greek word "Iouda". Each instance is a reference
to
> Judah, a son of Jacob, or his descendants who lived in Judaea or Judea,
who
> were members of one of the Twelve Tribes of Israel.
> JEW OR YHUDIY
> There are 276 instances of the words "jew" or "jews" in the KJV, 86 in the
> Old Testament which are translated from the Hebrew word "Jehudi", ", and
190
> in the New Testament which are translated from the Greek word "Ioudaios"
>> **According to John's own information, both Judah and Jew are translations
> of the same Hebrew word; though John tries to obscure that by offering
> different "hebrew" _pronunciations_ of the word. The roots of the two
Greek
> words are the same, the endings are different because Greek nouns use
> different endings for people and places. Iouda has a neutral ending,
naming
> a place, Judea. Ioudaios has a personal ending and is translated either
> Judean or Jew. John's own source identifies them as the same word! And yet
> in the next paragraph:
>>> There's never any indication in any of the Holy Scripture that any member
of
> the Tribe of Judah [read: a descendant of Judah] was ever referred to as a
> "jew", nor is there any indication that any descendant of Jehudi was ever
> referred to as a member of the Tribe of Judah.
>> **John, you've just identified them as the same word! And yet he goes on
> with more of the disjointed nonsense, offering different meanings for
> different pronunciations for the same word, and accusing Strong's and the
> KJV(and, incidently EVERY OTHER TRANSLATOR OF THE SCRIPTURES) of some
oort
> of "jewish slight of hand" for correctly translating the terms.
>> Joe
You're not going to like this, Joe. Not because you can't understand it,
but because you don't want to.
This is the Holy Bible, Joe:
Jer 36:14 and all the heads send unto Baruch, Jehudi son of Nethaniah, son
of Shelemiah, son of Cushi, saying, `The roll in which thou hast read in the
ears of the people take in thy hand, and come.' And Baruch son of Neriah
taketh the roll in his hand and cometh in unto them,
Note that Jehudi was a son [read: descendant] of the Cushi:
ku^shiy
koo-shee'
Patronymic from H3568; a Cushite, or descendant of Cush: - Cushi, Cushite,
Ethiopian (-s).
Note that the Cushi were "descendants of Cush":
Gen 10:6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.
Gen 10:7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah,
and Sabtecha: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.
Note that Cush was a descendant of Ham.
Jehudi was a COMPLETELY different genealogy than Judah, Joe:
=========================================
Gen 29:4 And Jacob said unto them, My brethren, whence be ye? And they
said, Of Haran are we.
Gen 29:35 And she conceived again, and bore a son: and she said, Now will I
praise the LORD: therefore she called his name Judah; and left bearing.
Judah was a son of Jacob.
Gen 27:19 And Jacob said unto his father, I am Esau thy firstborn; I have
done according as thou biddest me: arise, I pray thee, sit and eat of my
venison, that thy soul may bless me.
Gen 27:20 And Isaac said unto his son, How is it that thou hast found it so
quickly, my son? And he said, Because the LORD thy God brought it to me.
Jacob was a son of Isaac.
Gen 21:3 And Abraham called the name of his son that was born unto him,
whom Sarah bore to him, Isaac.
Isaac was a son of Abraham.
Gen 11:26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begot Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
Abraham was named Abram before God changed his name, and he was a son of
Terah.
Gen 11:24 And Nahor lived nine and twenty years, and begot Terah:
Terah was a son of Nahor.
Gen 11:22 And Serug lived thirty years, and begot Nahor:
Nahor was a son of Serug.
Gen 11:20 And Reu lived two and thirty years, and begot Serug:
Gen 11:18 And Peleg lived thirty years, and begot Reu:
Gen 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for
in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
All descendants of Eber were Hebrews.
Gen 10:21 Unto Shem also the father of all the children of Eber, the
brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.
All descendants of Shem were Semites.
Gen 5:32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begot Shem, Ham, and
Japheth.
Note that these two different lineages lived in two different geographical
territories, warred continuously with each other for millennia, put away the
children of any members of their tribes who married members of other tribes,
and CANNOT be "different meanings for different pronunciations for the same
word".
Descendants of Jehudi are not and can never be Semites, Hebrews, children of
Abraham, nor Israelites.
They're different words, according to a detailed account of the Holy Bible.
http://christianparty.net/noahgenealogy.htm
John Knight