JDay123 at BellSouth.net (Jd) wrote:
>Bob LeChevalier <lojbab at lojban.org> wrote:
>>>>But His "choosing" before the formation of the earth was a choosing of
>>>>ALL of mankind, IMO. He CHOSE to give us free will that we may in
>>>>turn CHOOSE to worship him.
>>>>Then why on God's green earth if all humans have the capacity to
>>>understand that a Creator did indeed create everything and chose
>>>everyone before this creation, have 80% (your stats) of all
>>>Europeans chosen to believe the ToE which is absoultly silent
>>>concerning God Himself?
>>>>Because some people don't confuse believing in God with believing in
>>the 100% inerrancy of the Bible.
>>Then you cannot say with certainty that God did indeed choose "ALL
>of mankind" if you read that in a Bible which is not 100% accurate.
Nothing can be said with certainty. You might be a butterfly dreaming
you are "Jd" and posting on the Internet. There might be no Bible at
all, and it might be a figment of your imagination, or you might be a
figment of mine.
If the Bible is true, then I see no basis for a claim of selective
grace. If the Bible is not true, then it may or may not matter, but I
choose to have faith anyway.
>>>>Of course there have been plenty of evangelists who seem to have been
>>>>speaking of God in order to access the till of donations.
>>>>Well, you could say the same for "scientists" i.e. they are only
>>>spreading rumors so they can get more and bigger research dollars
>>>from Uncle Sam via the tax payers.
>>>If you don't like it, make sure you never use any modern medicine, or
>>a computer, or anything else which would probably not exist without
>>those Uncle Sam Research dollars.
>>Well if you don't like evangelists, you don't think the Bible is
I didn't say that, but it is correct.
>and you think men were once apes
I didn't say that, and it is NOT what I believe.
>which sprang from mud
I didn't say that, and it is not what I believe.
>maybe you should swallow copious amounts of pills of every sort
>before your feet hit the floor every morning and patiently wait for
>me to fire up my computer and send you some truth.
I have no particular reason to believe that you have any "truth".