"Cary Kittrell" <cary at afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <3d9e4765.8309914 at news1.lig.bellsouth.net>
JDay123 at BellSouth.com (Jd) writes:
> <cary at afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> <>If it says that -- and please, what encyclopaedia is this? --
> <>then it's simply wrong. Speculating about abiogenesis is a pleasant
> <>parlor game, and there have been some interesting empirical experiments
> <>too -- way too much is made of Urey and Miller, by the way, but they
> <>were hardly the only ones -- but neodarwinism says nothing about
> <>how organisms arose, it talks about what happens to them once they're
> <>Classic Darwinism says exactly the same thing about abiogenesis
> <>as well -- to wit: nothing.
> <For your information, philosphers have been addressing evolution for
>> For your information, they haven't. The Great Chain of Being, which
> is what you're doubtless talking about, was viewed as a static
> and once-created thing, not as a dynamic and constantly self-
> modifying process.
And "scientists" have not a shred of evidence that those species which
became extinct weren't created at exactly the same time as ALL of the
species which are still in existence were created.
Just because biologists are able to combine species and create a "new" life
form [often misnamed "species"] is no reason to believe that ANY modern
species wasn't orginally created in exactly its current form.
The sheer speculation that Neanderthal was an ancestor to humanoids was
DISPROVEN by the DNA evidence which showed that this "common ancestor" would
have had to have lived a million years ago. But this is SPECULATION,
because not one single fossil exists as evidence that Neanderthal
"speciated" into humanoids.
In order for "speciation" to take place, the fossils of the intermediate
species would have been a thousand or a billion times more prevalent than
the original Neanderthal fossils--but not ONE has been found, leaving this
as sheer SPECULATION.
> <It wasn't until the 18th century that science entered
> <the discussion. In other words, your Lord Darwin did not invent
> <evolution like Al Gore did not invent the internet.
>> Of course he didn't. What he did do was to 1) provide for the
> first time a plausible mechanism which moved evolution from
> the realm of speculation to the purview of science, and 2)
> provide great thundering encyclopaedic piles of evidence
> and examples. But I sure you, as "a Biologists", already
> knew this.
They already knew that the South American rhea can resembled the African
ostrich, but no biologist was STUPID enough to claim that they both
"evolved" from a "common ancestor". From this STUPID assessment, Darwinists
"evolutionists" make the giant leap that man evolved from monkeys!
NOT UNTIL YOU PRODUCE ONE COMMON ANCESTOR TO THE OSTRICH AND RHEA CAN YOU
CLAIM THAT THIS IS A 'THEORY'!
>> But the idea that species weren't necessarily timeless entities
> had been in the air for over half a century, ever since the
> fossil evidence made it undeniable that large numbers of very
> strange animals had once roamed the planet, but then disappeared.
> <It's people like me and Mr. Knight who keep you guys from perverting
> <dictionaries, encyclopdias and bibles and turning civilization into
> <mass meanigless chaos.
>>> You mean like Mr. Knight's definition of "adultery"?
>>> -- cary
Well, thanks, cary, it's sure nice to know that you believe that it was I
who developed the Hebrew language and thus caused the Hebrew word "toebah"
to mean miscegenation and adultery, but I must decline that honor.
Here is how "toebah" is handled in the Holy Bible:
Eze 23:36 The LORD said moreover unto me; Son of man, wilt thou judge
Aholah and Aholibah? yea, declare unto them their abominations;
Eze 23:37 That they have committed adultery, and blood is in their hands,
and with their idols have they committed adultery, and have also caused
their sons, whom they bore unto me, to pass for them through the fire, to de
Eze 23:40 And furthermore, that ye have sent for men to come from far, unto
whom a messenger was sent; and, lo, they came: for whom thou didst wash
thyself, paintedst thy eyes, and deckedst thyself with ornaments,
Eze 23:41 And satest upon a stately bed, and a table prepared before it,
whereupon thou hast set mine incense and mine oil.
Eze 23:42 And a voice of a multitude being at ease was with her: and with
the men of the common sort were brought Sabeans from the wilderness, which
put bracelets upon their hands, and beautiful crowns upon their heads.
Eze 23:43 Then said I unto her that was old in adulteries, Will they now
commit whoredoms with her, and she with them?
Eze 23:44 Yet they went in unto her, as they go in unto a woman that
playeth the harlot: so went they in unto Aholah and unto Aholibah, the lewd
Eze 23:45 And the righteous men, they shall judge them after the manner of
adulteresses, and after the manner of women that shed blood; because they
are adulteresses, and blood is in their hands.
Eze 23:46 For thus saith the Lord GOD; I will bring up a company upon them,
and will give them to be removed and spoiled.
Eze 23:47 And the company shall stone them with stones, and dispatch them
with their swords; they shall slay their sons and their daughters, and burn
up their houses with fire.
Eze 23:48 Thus will I cause lewdness to cease out of the land, that all
women may be taught not to do after your lewdness.
Eze 23:49 And they shall recompense your lewdness upon you, and ye shall
bear the sins of your idols: and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
Note that the English word "abomination" is translated from the Hebrew word
"toebah", just as it is in the following:
Ezr 9:1 Now when these things were done, the princes drew near unto me,
saying, The people of Israel, and the priests and the Levites, have not
separated themselves from the peoples of the lands, doing according to their
abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the
Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites.
Ezr 9:2 For they have taken of their daughters for themselves and for their
sons, so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the peoples of the
lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this
Ezr 9:3 And when I heard this thing, I rent my garment and my robe, and
plucked off the hair of my head and of my beard, and sat down confounded.
Ezr 9:4 Then were assembled unto me every one that trembled at the words of
the God of Israel, because of the trespass of them of the captivity; and I
sat confounded until the evening oblation.
Ezr 9:5 And at the evening oblation I arose up from my humiliation, even
with my garment and my robe rent; and I fell upon my knees, and spread out
my hands unto Jehovah my God;
Thus, "toebah" refers to MISCEGENATION and ADULTERY.