Listen, Shadow Dancer AND Bob LeChevalier,
Doesn't ANYTHING sink in to your skulls?
The news items I presented to you from Mr. Vachss's website present WOMEN
who DIRECTLY CAUSED THE ABUSE OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. Not all of the
stories there show women as causative of the abuse. But a goodly portion of
them do. So, this means that not every abuser is a man, and that men don't
cause all cases of abuse. In many of the stories whose URL's I cited, men
were not even involved in the cause of the abuse AT ALL.
WOMEN are the CAUSE of an increasing number in the percentage and physical
numbers of abuse cases nationwide. Yet, because of VAWA 1 and 2, Battered
Women's Shelters, feminists like YOU, Jews, and other man hating scum, men
ALWAYS get the blame for being abusive. In rare cases, women are cited as
the cause for a murder or serious abuse of a family member, and in every
case of abuse, women get off with much lighter sentences than men. This is
EXACTLY why 96% of the US Prison Population, which has fully 1/3 of the
world's prisoners, are MEN. This is also EXACTLY why the USA has 400 times
more attorneys than does Japan, and yet Japan has a higher standard of
living and a higher population per square kilometer than we do. Hence, if a
WOMAN starts a family fight, and the MAN does something to defend himself
against HER physical assaults, HE ends up in jail for the rest of his life
even though forensics proved she attacked him first. And, if a WOMAN starts
a domestic abuse situation even though the MAN did NOTHING AT ALL, she comes
at him with a weapon and kills him even though he never touched her, she
gets off with a "temporary insanity" or "self defense" plea, and gets a
much lighter sentence.
On the same note, I recently learned of a couple in my area (NE PA) who BOTH
had seriously abused their son, with beatings and cigarette burns. BOTH
parents committed that heinous act against their own progeny. The man got
(I believe) 20 years or more. The woman got only 5 years. This was even
though they BOTH committed the act of abusing their defenseless son.
Regarding touching a woman vs. touching a man, first of all, I never was
gay. My converting to homosexuality would be exactly what the
Anti-Christian feminists would want. It would be the icing on their cake,
to have a so-called "abuser" like me (read: MAN) to make love regularly with
a man, despite God's clear commands against this in Leviticus 18 and Romans
1. Second, I trust a man who shoves a weapon or a fist in my face a lot
more highly than I trust a woman who throws herself at me to "hug" me. At
least in the former case, the threat is not veiled, as it is in the latter.
I don't touch a man because I'm not gay. I don't touch a woman because I
don't feel like being thrown in jail or fired from my job because I sexually
harrassed her, even though I may have only patted her back.
I pray that the both of you would learn the hard lessons that Dr. Daniel
Amneus, John Knight, millions of other men nationwide, and I, were taught.
We have no inferiority complex, as you say we do. We have been hurt. We
have been maimed in our hearts, and sometimes in our bodies, because of what
women and the feminized courts have done to us. I pray that what happened
to us, as good God-fearing, family loving men, would happen to you, so you
would learn in truckloads of lessons what feminism has already done to you.
Increasing numbers of heterosexual men are taking clear stands against
feminism AND the abuse of women AND abuse by women. This is why the
National Organization for MEN (www.tnom.com) and Promise Keepers
(www.promisekeepers.org) were founded by men who seek to stop abuse and
minister to men as well. This is also why increasing numbers of
heterosexual men will join men's ministries and even monasteries, because we
are sick of abuse. We are sick of women. And we don't give a flying fart
in an airport whether women are sick of us or not, simply because we no
longer want them. We are sick of being emasculated by the courts, the
schools, our psychiatrists, and our families. We want to be decent and
loving and Godly family men. If we attain this goal by not wanting women
any more, then the end justifies the means.
Regarding that woman who posted her personal ad on hotornot.com, the fact of
that matter is, she was MARRIED when the photo was taken, and an astute man
can only consider her to be MARRIED NOW. "Married but looking" is the RULE
here, and it is called ADULTERY!!!
Frankly, I no longer care to consider a girlfriend. Why should I bother?
Why should I and millions of other men waste our time, talents, hormones,
and body fluids on the dumbest cows in the universe, American women? Why
should we bother WANTING women at all, when women obviously don't want us?
A Monastery is the place to be, brother, where a celibate Christian man can
really work on a relationship that counts, a relationship with Almighty God.
A Monastery is also NOT a prison, which is invariably where many men end up
after they have relations with women, anyway. Why not eliminate that cause
of imprisonment? Why not eliminate relations with women?
AFTER A HORRENDOUS MARRIAGE TO A WOMAN WHO CAUSED ME NOTHING BUT PAIN AND
GRIEF AND WHO FALSELY ACCUSED ME OF THREATENING HER LIFE WITH A PILLOW AND A
KNIFE, WHY SHOULD I CONSIDER ANOTHER WOMAN AT ALL??? WAIT UNTIL IT HAPPENS
TO YOU, PAL.
Last of all, who cares whether or not Usenet is a plain-text forum? Use
Microsoft Outlook Express instead. It handles HTML in Mail and Newsgroups
rather nicely.
Sincerely,
Richard C. August
"Shadow Dancer" <insomniac at winterslight.org> wrote in message
news:ahfqmk$shhfu$1 at ID-150265.news.dfncis.de...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard C. August" <raugust at ptd.net>
> Newsgroups:
>alt.feminism,alt.feminism.individualism,bionet.neuroscience,soc.men,alt.reli
> gion.wicca,alt.religion,alt.education
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 5:19 PM
> Subject: Re: brain sizes: Einstein's and women's
> > Dear Shadow Dancer,
> >
> > There is no misuse of his materiels here. There is only quoting of said
> > materiels to prove my point in spades to you who so desperately need to
> hear
> > it. Not all abusers or murderers are men. Many are women.
> >
> > And if you don't use HTML text, may I suggest you start using it in your
> > Mail and News Client? Increasing amounts of mail and newsgroups use
HTML
> to
> > present a more positive or important appearance.
>> Usenet is a plain-text forum, idiot.
>> And yes, you did mis-use his materials, as this reply letter will
> demonstrate. Please do not do so again. Many of us have great respect
for
> Mr. Vachss and the work he does.
> ===
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> Jul 2002 10:10:11 PDT
> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:10:11 -0700 (PDT)
> From: rose dawn scott <rosedawn_scott at yahoo.com>
> Subject: From The Zero
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>> Dear Shadow Dancer,
>> My name is Rose Dawn Scott, and I am the Resources Director for Andrew
> Vachss' website, The Zero (http://www.vachss.com).
>> I am writing in response to a Usenet post that you forwarded to the
> site, regarding some links posted on a variety of newsgroups including
> links to the website.
>> Mr. Vachss does not maintain an online presence (thus the reply from
> me), but I have known and worked with him for many years, and can tell
> you that you are absolutely correct when you state that Mr. Vachss does
> not promote the idea of the inferiority of women in any way.
>> With regard to the website, The Zero's position is one of advocacy for
> those who have been victimized, without regard to respective genders of
> victims and perpetrators. The links quoted seem to have been
> selectively chosen, and not representative in any way of The Zero as a
> whole.
>> For example, no links were provided to such categories as "Domestic
> Violence - U.S.:"
>>http://www.vachss.com/help_text/domestic_violence_us.html>> or "Domestic Violence - International:"
>>http://www.vachss.com/help_text/domestic_violence_intl.html>> or to our "Lesbian, Gay, and Transgender Resources:"
>>http://www.vachss.com/help_text/l_gay_bi_trans.html>> Not to mention Health Care, Parenting, Acquaintance Rape, Victim
> Resources -- checking the website in its entirety, from Mr. Vachss' own
> writings (http://www.vachss.com/av_dispatches.html) to the "Resources"
> section as a whole (http://www.vachss.com/help_text/index.html) would
> seem like the best move for anyone wishing to get an idea about the
> positions of Mr. Vachss and the various issues that make up the mission
> that all of us who work on the website share.
>> Thank you for writing, and please feel free to forward my comments to
> the thread you have referenced above.
>> Best regards,
>> Rose Dawn Scott
>> =====
> Rose Dawn Scott
>rosedawn_scott at yahoo.com> Resources Director, The Zero
>http://vachss.com/help_text/index.html>> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better
>http://health.yahoo.com>> ===
>> Rest of text left so that the entire audience may know the entire story.
> The Shadow Dancer
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > Richard C. August
> > Why bother desiring American Women?
> >
> > "Shadow Dancer" <insomniac at winterslight.org> wrote in message
> > news:aha14p$rac9k$1 at ID-150265.news.dfncis.de...> > > Mr. Vachss does not promote the idea that women are inferior, nor does
> he
> > > promote the idea that women, more than men, are responsible for child
> > abuse.
> > > He doesn't skew statistics like you and your "friend" John Knight do.
> > >
> > > Let's see what Mr. Vachss has to say about the way you've mis-used his
> > > materials. He's getting a copy of this.
> > >
> > > The Shadow Dancer
> > > P.S. Start using Plain Text if you really want to get your message
> > across.
> > >
> > > "Richard C. August" <raugust at ptd.net> wrote in message
> > > news:_zWZ8.35919$Q43.1131387 at nnrp1.ptd.net...> > > Dear John,
> > >
> > > I second your motion, if that can be done here.
> > >
> > > Please, let us not forget that most of these "scores" on these "tests"
> > were
> > > determined FALSELY either by grading on a curve or by "recentering"
the
> > > scores, which is EXACTLY what the College Board did with SAT scores
and
> > > which, very likely, is what the TIMSS revisions of late did as well.
> > >
> > > Face it, 9th Witch, until you have been faced with your own stupidity,
> you
> > > will continually be deceived. You will be duped into thinking that
the
> > > dumbest blonde on the planet is a real Einstein, until you figure that
> she
> > > can't even scratch her X mark on her Welfare application, and wouldn't
> > know
> > > what a signatory witness was if she screwed him.
> > >
> > > We have women here in these United States who can barely apply lip
> gloss,
> > > nail polish, and perfume. Yet, they are praised for their "brains"
and
> > > "intellect" simply because they can raise men's, er, uh, FANTASIES.
> They
> > > are given a "fair shake" in life because they know how to have sex.
> Even
> > > the dumbest animals on this planet can have sex! But thanks to them,
> and
> > > jackbooted Feminazis like YOU, we men no longer want to have
> girlfriends,
> > > much less marry. We desire to serve God Almighty as good men and
> > husbands.
> > > Thanks to feminism, VAWA 1 and 2, pornography, the TIMSS scores,
> > > "recentering", and women in the workplace, we cannot.
> > >
> > > SOooooooo, we end up in monasteries.......
> > >
> > > http://www.osb.org> > >
> > > http://www.staugustineshouse.org> > >
> > > http://www.breviary.net> > >
> > > http://www.universalis.com> > >
> > > Meanwhile, I guess you gals just have to suffer without us. And when
> you
> > > find out that an increasing amount, percentage, and number of Domestic
> > > Violence cases are INITIATED (read: STARTED) by WOMEN (!!!) against
> other
> > > women, their children, and men, then you find that women aren't all
> that
> > > nonviolent, are they?
> > >
> > > Whatever happened to the protection from violence men can afford?
> > >
> > > http://www.vachss.com/help_text/archive/20000.html> > >
> > > http://www.vachss.com/help_text/archive/a_deficit.html> > >
> > > http://www.vachss.com/help_text/archive/daycare_van.html> > >
> > > http://www.vachss.com/help_text/archive/daycare_van2.html> > >
> > > http://www.vachss.com/help_text/archive/girl-closet.html> > >
> > > http://www.vachss.com/help_text/archive/infant_forgotten.html> > >
> > > http://www.vachss.com/help_text/archive/children_trunk.html> > >
> > > Shall I go on???
> > >
> > > http://www.vachss.com/help_text/ca_emotional.html> > >
> > > http://www.vachss.com/help_text/child_sexual_abuse.html> > >
> > > http://www.vachss.com/help_text/health_care.html> > >
> > > http://www.vachss.com/help_text/children_meds.html> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.vachss.com/help_text/infant.html> > >
> > > Forget it!! Check out the entire website at http://www.vachss.com.> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard C. August
> > >
> > > "to get out of the rat race, perhaps off the planet, and into a
positive
> > > spirituality and mindset,
> > > and to become fully male again."
> > >
> > > "John Knight" <johnknight at usa.com> wrote in message
> > > news:fEVZ8.8866$Fq6.717539 at news2.west.cox.net...> > > >
> > > > "The 9th Witch" <appalachian_witch at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ah5h4v$qdq01$1 at ID-131540.news.dfncis.de...> > > > >
> > > > > Bob LeChevalier <lojbab at lojban.org> wrote in message
> > > > > news:r0dcju48rkn9rrtcg9385hacfeak7ssf1i at 4ax.com...> > > > > > "John Knight" <johnknight at usa.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> There are animals with more brain cells than humans have, no?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Correct. "no". None of them. Even 9 foot apes have brains a
> > > quarter
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >size of human brains. Dynasaurs had brains the size of an
> orange.
> > > The
> > > > > > >human brain is a quantum leap in size, quality, and output.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The human brain is around 1400 grams. Porpoises have brains
> weighing
> > > > > around
> > > > > > 1700 grams.
> > > > > > http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/kinser/Size1.html> > > > > >
> > > > > > Elephants and whales have significantly larger brains than
humans
> > > > > > http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/kinser/Size5.html> > > > > > http://brainmuseum.org/Evolution/paleo/> > > > > > http://www.worldalmanacforkids.com/explore/animals/whale.html> > > > > > with elephants having brains 3 times the size of humans and
sperm
> > > whales
> > > > > > having brains more than 6 times the size of humans (20 pounds).
> > Blue
> > > > > whales
> > > > > > have the largest brains
> > > > > >
> > > > > > lojbab
> > > > >
> > > > > "At two, humans have the most brain cells that they will ever have
> in
> > > > their
> > > > > lifetime. If these cells are not used, they are simply deleted."
> > > > > http://students.ou.edu/I/Feather.K.Inman-1/concepts.html> > > > >
> > > > > "We now know that an infant's brain contains 100 billion cells,
the
> > most
> > > > > brain cells a person will ever have."
> > > > > http://www.nccic.org/pubs/mirrors/intro.html> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How did infants score on your test, John? According to your
theory,
> > > since
> > > > > they have more brain cells than either men or women, they should
> have
> > > > scored
> > > > > much higher than either category.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You could only make such a silly observation if you lacked 3 1/2
> billion
> > > > brain cells from the start, which is the point: male babies also
have
> 3
> > > 1/2
> > > > billion more brain cells than female babies, just as adult males
have
> 3
> > > 1/2
> > > > billion more than adult females.
> > > >
> > > > The point you missed is that this is proof that the difference is by
> > > design
> > > > and not because of "discrimination" or some other silly feminazi
> theory.
> > > >
> > > > > "Women's brains are more tightly packed with cells in the area
that
> > > > controls
> > > > > mental processes such as judgement, personality, planning and
> working
> > > > > memory, researchers have discovered.
> > > > > A team from McMaster University, Ontario, Canada, found that women
> > have
> > > up
> > > > > to 15% more brain cell density in certain areas of the frontal
lobe,
> > > which
> > > > > controls so-called higher mental processes. "
> > > > >
> > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_1653000/1653687.stm> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is this why men score 18-50% higher than women on ever test ever
> > devised,
> > > > across races, nations, and continents, and have since Day One?
> > > >
> > > > > "Women are just as good at math as men. At Earlham, half the math
> > majors
> > > > are
> > > > > women, and those women include some of our strongest majors. Half
> the
> > > > > students in our elementary classes are women. A survey of recent
> > > calculus
> > > > > classes showed equal numbers of male and female students. The
> average
> > > > female
> > > > > student scored about half a letter grade better than the average
> male
> > > > > student. At the faculty level, half of Earlham's math professors
are
> > > > women,
> > > > > and our female faculty members have published more scholarly
papers
> in
> > > > > mathematics than have their male colleagues. To anyone believing
> that
> > > > women
> > > > > cannot do well at mathematics - or that men cannot do badly - our
> > > > experience
> > > > > offers abundant evidence to the contrary."
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.math.earlham.edu/WomensBrains.html> > > >
> > > > Did you even notice that this completely ignores performance? Just
> > because
> > > > half the students sitting in a classroom is women is not proof of
> > anything
> > > > except their ability to waddle to class and plant their big fat
as.es
> in
> > a
> > > > chair. Just because those teachers give girls a letter grade higher
> > than
> > > > they give boys (who score a standard deviation higher than on ALL
> > > > *objective* tests), is proof that those teachers are too STUPID to
> even
> > > > detect such huge differences in performance.
> > > >
> > > > Can you even imagine the mentality of a teacher teaching children
all
> > her
> > > > life, never knowing that all boys across the world, throughout
> history,
> > > > across all races, score a full standard deviation higher than girls
in
> > > many
> > > > subjects?
> > > >
> > > > Why should we even permit such ignorant "teachers" to get anywhere
> near
> > > our
> > > > children?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Neanderthals had larger brains than we do, she pointed out, but
> > > obviously
> > > > > they weren't smarter."
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > How does she know that? Did she test Neanderthal? He left behind
> some
> > > > excellent art, something that not a single nigger in Africa, with
very
> > > small
> > > > brains, were ever able to accomplish.
> > > >
> > > > > "Overall, however, men lose slightly more brain cells than do
women"
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.csuchico.edu/pub/inside/archive/98_04_09/brain.html> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Men could lose a billion more brain cells than women and still have
an
> > > extra
> > > > 2 1/2 billion to play with--but "slightly more" is most likely
nowhere
> > > close
> > > > to a billion, wouldn't you say? Why are you quoting these typical
> > > > nonsensical feminazi statements?
> > > >
> > > > > "The exact reason for this difference is not known, but the
opinion
> of
> > > > > experts is that it is simply related to a larger body size in man
> (the
> > > > more
> > > > > cell muscles you have, more brain cells you need). This difference
> > > should
> > > > > not be interpreted as a difference in intelligence or memory."
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.epub.org.br/cm/perguntas/031-how-many-cells.html> > > >
> > > > This is precisely the absurd, silly, nonsensical, uneducated,
> ignorant,
> > > > illogical "reasoning" we might expect from a 3 1/2 billion brain
cell
> > > > limited brain--so you know it's not true, don't you? As already
noted
> > > above
> > > > in your other absurd, silly, nonsensical, uneducated, ignorant,
> > illogical
> > > > statement, it takes PRECISELY the same amount of memory, computer
> power,
> > > and
> > > > brain cells to operate a human male baby's body as it does to
operate
> an
> > > > adult male body.
> > > >
> > > > Don't you ever check your work?
> > > >
> > > > > "At this point, researchers do not know how the structural
> differences
> > > > > influence brain function. It's possible that male and female
brains
> > work
> > > > at
> > > > > a similar capacity but process information differently. For
example,
> > one
> > > > > study shows that men and women perform equally well in a test that
> > asks
> > > > > subjects to read a list of nonsense words and determine if they
> rhyme.
> > > > Yet,
> > > > > imaging results found that women use areas on the right and left
> sides
> > > of
> > > > > the brain, while men only use areas on the left side to complete
the
> > > test.
> > > >
> > > > Also note that Wechsler found that men far outperform women on the
94%
> > of
> > > > the "IQ problems" which he eliminated from his "IQ test", which is
> clear
> > > > evidence that women perform "equally" to men in only 6% of these
> > problems,
> > > > and my bet is that it was something like these "nonsense words".
> > > >
> > > > > Other research suggests that, on average, the female brain
> > > performs
> > > > > better on some skills while the male brain executes other tasks at
a
> > > > higher
> > > > > level. For example, tests show that women generally can recall
lists
> > of
> > > > > words or paragraphs of text better than men. On the other hand,
men
> > > > usually
> > > > > perform better on tests that require the ability to mentally
rotate
> an
> > > > image
> > > > > in order to solve a problem. Mental rotation is thought to help
> people
> > > > find
> > > > > their way, according to researchers. Does that leave the majority
of
> > > women
> > > > > lost? Obviously not. Scientists believe that women may rely on
their
> > > > memory
> > > > > advantage and recall landmarks to find a destination."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > http://web.sfn.org/content/Publications/BrainBriefings/gender.brain.html> > > > >
> > > > > Have a nice day. Or not. Your choice...
> > > > >
> > > > > T9W
> > > >
> > > > Which ignores that this difference in construction is precisely why
> men
> > > have
> > > > a 42% advantage over women in hand/eye-oriented Olympic events like
> > > > springboard, or are one quarter as likely per mile driven to have an
> > auto
> > > > accident, or one third as likely per mile flown to have an airplane
> > > > accident, or score 18-50% higher on ever standardized test which
even
> > > > feminazis have managed to create.
> > > > http://christianparty.net/olympics.htm> > > >
> > > > The fact that you're willing to accept this statement carte blanche,
> > > without
> > > >
> > > > any statistical evidence to back it up, or even a quantification of
> some
> > > > type to give you perspective, is evidence enough of your ability to
be
> > > > misled by intentionally misleading and erroneous statements like
this.
> > > >
> > > > This is exactly the problem. This is exactly why so many American
> girls
> > > > went into the TIMSS test with the objective of providing the right
> > answer,
> > > > but came out having scored lower on the test than if they had merely
> > > guessed
> > > > http://christianparty.net/timssphysics.htm> > > >
> > > > You girls were deceived. You were deceived by some of the world's
> best
> > > > experts at deception. And you're obviously just as incapable of
> > > recognizing
> > > > why or who did it as you are at adequately verifying and carefully
> > > > critiquing these above statements, which is exactly how feminist
mass
> > > > hysteria propagates.
> > > >
> > > > John Knight
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>>
