"Angilion" <angilion at ypical.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:37:14 GMT, "John Knight" <johnknight at usa.com>
> wrote:
>> >"Angilion" <angilion at ypical.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:3d35eb5a.497371 at news.freeserve.net...>> [..]
>> >> A scientist is a person who uses the principles of science to
> >> determine *how* things happen. That same person may use
> >> religion to satisfy themselves as to *why* things happen.
> >
> >The problem with that position, Angilion, which Jd just touched on, is
that
> >Christianity IS a science in itself. The Holy Bible didn't sell by the
> >billions because it's a fairy tale--it's the purest science on Earth, yet
> >here you are relegating it to some form of witchcraft.
>> Faith is not science. In fact, you could reasonably say that the
> two are diametrically opposed. The details of the faith are irrelevant
> to that. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Wicca, whatever. They are
> all faiths, not science.
You don't understand Christianity, Angilion. One of the reasons may be that
you listen to the reams and volumes of jewish diatribes about what
Christianity is, without consulting with the Holy Bible first. The two
"religions" are exact opposites. The Talmud goes to great lengths to try to
discredit the Holy Bible, Christianity, and Jesus Christ, and that program
has been a moderate success, but that's no reason to abandon all reason.
>> You are simply trying to usurp and corrupt the whole idea
> of science, obviously because you cannot argue against it.
> Attempting to redefine the word "science" and the concept
> behind it is the first stage of that process.
>
Most likely Christians can defend Christianity as a science by any
definition you might want to provide, but just for reference, let's use the
following:
Main Entry: sci·ence
Pronunciation: 'sI-&n(t)s
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin scientia, from
scient-, sciens having knowledge, from present participle of scire to know;
probably akin to Sanskrit chyati he cuts off, Latin scindere to split --
more at SHED
Date: 14th century
1 : the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or
misunderstanding
2 a : a department of systematized knowledge as an object of study <the
science of theology> b : something (as a sport or technique) that may be
studied or learned like systematized knowledge <have it down to a science>
3 a : knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the
operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through
scientific method b : such knowledge or such a system of knowledge concerned
with the physical world and its phenomena : NATURAL SCIENCE
4 : a system or method reconciling practical ends with scientific laws
<culinary science>
5 capitalized : CHRISTIAN SCIENCE
You most likely can't prove that Christianity doesn't fit under all five
definitions above, Angilion. Certainly you can't deny that it's "the state
of knowing", as it's one of the most comprehensive and widely spread
collections of knowledge on the planet? Certainly you can't deny that
Christianity is "something (as a sport or technique) that may be studied or
learned like systematized knowledge", can you? All religions fit that
category, even Talmudism. It's even "a system or method reconciling
practical ends with scientific laws" because the practical ends of
organizing a society around Christian principles (which by the definition
above are "scientific laws") is to nourish and protect that society, which
worked very well until the jews got involved.
> Since I "live" in alt.feminism, the obvious parallel is
> feminism itself, which usurped and corrupted the
> whole idea of sexual equality.
>
Maybe I understand what you're trying to say about "science", but disagree
with you that the existing dictionary definitions support your point. I
understand you to mean that you believe our advanced technological society
could not exist without much laboratory-related R&D and COULD exist without
the Holy Bible, Christianity, or Christians. I don't agree that any of it
could have happened without Christianity, though.
However--I greatly enjoy and appreciate watching you rip the feminazis to
shreds.
John Knight
