"Jet" <thatjetnospam at yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>> John Knight wrote:
> >
> > "Jet" <thatjetnospam at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3D37397F.1CEEAF3C at yahoo.com...> > >
> > >
> > > John Knight wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Jet" <thatjetnospam at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3D364DCC.FD04A773 at yahoo.com...> > > > > > If they didn't have the wrong information, or didn't make an
> > error,
> > > > > > >then of the 30% who got it correct, 23% would have gotten it
> > correct
> > > > because
> > > > > > >they guessed, and only 7% would have gotten it correct because
they
> > > > > > >understood the problem [ x = total guesses, 0.25x = correct
guesses
> > > > 0.75x =
> > > > > > >wrong guesses = 70%, x = .93, 0.25x = .23 = correct guesses,
> > correct
> > > > total
> > > > > > >answers of 30% - 23% correct guesses = 7% (those who knew the
> > > > problem)].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You cannot determine the percentage who guessed. You persist in
> > > > assuming
> > > > > > that everyone who got the answer wrong guessed randomly, and
there
> > is no
> > > > > > evidence of this.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's look at his algebra. He states x = total guesses, and 0.25x
=
> > > > > correct guesses 0.75 x= wrong guesses.
> > > > >
> > > > > He then figures that 0.75 x= 70%, and thus x = .93.
> > > > >
> > > > > BUT, if we figure .25 x= 30%, x=1.20. We have x with two different
> > > > > values!
> > > > >
> > > > > LOL.
> > > > >
> > > > > J
> > > >
> > > > My, my, Jet, you're really working overtime to try to prove the
point of
> > > > this thread, aren't you? Two stabs at it so far, and you're still
off
> > by a
> > > > mile.
> > >
> > > Point out what was wrong with my algebra. If there were anything, you
> > > would have pointed it out. Assuming you can do 7th grade math.
> > >
> >
> > You were already reminded that your problem wasn't with algebra, nor
> > addition and subtraction, nor with multiplication and division. Your
> > problem is much simpler than that, the you still can't figure it out?
>> No, I just followed the "logical" conclusion of your contradictory
> statements.
>> >
> > ok, just admit you don't know, and I'll tell you. Or just ask somebody
else
> > what you did wrong.
>> YOU are the one that figured out that a negative number of people got an
> answer right without guessing. If you come up with a conclusion that is
> improssible, you know, or should know, that it's time to go back to the
> drawing board.
>> >
> > > >
> > > > Don't ask anybody for the answer, ok? This is a closed book quiz.
> > Scout's
> > > > honor?
> > >
> > > I won't bother until you give the answer H04, you've had a day to ask
> > > around.
> > >
> >
> > You've been given all the hints in the world, you've been provided with
the
> > url's to the questions as well as to the answers, you haven't
demonstrated
> > that there's even one wiggling electon in that 3 1/2 billion brain cell
> > short cranial cavity of yours, and now you want someone else to solve
H04
> > for you?
>> IOW, you have no idea how to answer it.
>> >
> > If you could just get the first step right, it might be worth explaining
it
> > all to you, but if you're this lazy or this stupid, why should anyone
waste
> > any more time with it?
> >
> > It's not somebody's "sexist opinion" that you can't figure it out--you
just
> > proved in writing that you can't.
> >
> > John Knight
>> LOL. You can't figure it out, and you know it. I know the answer, and
> will show I do by pointing out the key to the solution: "same velocity".
> But you still don't have a fucking clue, even though I have just all but
> told you the answer.
>> Looks like those 3 1/2 million extra cells are being used to keep your
> knuckles aligned as they drag along the ground!
>> J
This is the classic example of how feminazis are incapable of understanding
the world around them, and how and why they blame it on everybody and
everything but themselves, Jet, so thank you for the excellent demonstration
of the point of the thread.
You were given many hints: your problem is not an algebra problem, not an
addition or subtraction problem, not a multiplication or division problem,
you were even advised to ask someone who may know the answer, you received
every possible clue--and you still failed to get to first base on
understanding your mistake. You were reminded that the error wasn't based
on some "sexist" or "discriminatory" math concept that tries to make girls
look bad, and now that you've been handed the answer on a silver platter,
you're undoubtedly going to continue to blame everyone but yourself for your
failure, just as good little feminazis always do.
But for the edification of everyone else following this, here is your
fundamental error. The numbers are rounded off to make it simpler:
x = total guesses
0.25x = corrrect guesses
0.75x = wrong guesses = 70%
x = 0.93 [which was rounded of from 93 1/3%, for simplicity]
0.25x = 23% [which was rounded off from 23 1/3%]
[total correct answers] - [correct guesses] = [those who knew the problem]
30% - 23% = 7% [which was rounded off from 6 2/3%] = those who knew the
problem
Here's what you wrote:
> > > > He then figures that 0.75 x= 70%, and thus x = .93.
> > > >
> > > > BUT, if we figure .25 x= 30%, x=1.20. We have x with two different
> > > > values!
> > > >
> > > > LOL.
> > > >
> > > > J
LOL, yourself.
YOU are the one who wrote: "we figure .25 x= 30%, x=1.20", which is
obviously wrong, and it's not clear why you made this mistake, or why you
didn't take the time to correct it, or why you couldn't even find it, even
with your gaggle of feminazis here to help you out.
The original statement was "0.25x = correct guesses" which was 23%, NOT 30%,
which makes x = 0.93 [or to be more precise, 93 1/3%].
Can you possibly explain what it was that caused you to misinterpret or
misunderstand the problem, and to blame your failure on everyone but
yourself? Until many of us saw these TIMSS scores, we had assumed that it
was possible to teach math to girls, but when ONE THIRD of American girls
scored lower on the items at http://christianparty.net/timssphysics.htm than
if they'd just guessed, then we have scientific *proof* that we've at the
*least* taken the WRONG approach. Your post helped greatly to understand
why.
John Knight
