"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab at lojban.org> wrote in message
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> "Shadow Dancer" <insomniac at winterslight.org> wrote:
> >"Jd" <JDay123 at BellSouth.com> wrote in message
> >news:3d373223.31275042 at news1.lig.bellsouth.net...> >> >Take your oversimplification of a PARABLE elsewhere. That portion of
the
> >> >Old Testament was entirely skewed by the all-male Council of Nicea -
who
> >> >came up with your King James version of the Holy Christian Bible.
> >>
> >> The Nicene council of 325 AD did not write the KJV. Helloooooo
> >> anyone out there???
>> >As for the Council of Nicea - yes, Jd, they not only re-translated the
> >Bible, but decided what books would stay and which would not - all based
on
> >how much power the Church under King James could have over people.
Period.
> >It was all about power and money then, and it's even more so, now.
> >
> >I am an amateur scholar at such things so I know whence I speak. I wager
> >you never bothered to investigate the truth yourself, independant of your
> >church. It's a shame to see yet another one scared by "visions of Hell"
> >into not having a mind of their own.
>> Unfortunately, Shadow Dancer, you are wrong about this one. The Nicean
> Council had nothing to do with King James or the English translation of
the
> Bible, taking place more than a millennium before the latter.
>> The Nicean Council made the final decision in what was already more or
less
> determined - which writings pertaining to Christ would be considered part
of
> the canon, and what order would be canonical. If the Council made any
> translation of the Bible it would have been into Latin or possible Greek,
but
> the oldest surviving text of the entire Bible is the Vulgate, which I
believe
> came from a century after the Nicean Council.
>> The earliest translations into English came several hundred years later,
and
> were considered heretical. After Henry VIII made the Protestant Church of
> England the established church, it was only a matter of time before a
> Protestant king would commission an English language translation of the
> scripture, and King James did so in the early 1600s, nearly 1300 years
after
> Niceae.
>> It is true that Fundamentalist Christians seem to forget that the King
James
> version of the Bible IS a translation, and many of their idiosyncratic
> doctrines stem from the English wording of the translation, and are not
> necessarily implied by other translations into other languages, but that
is a
> separate debate.
>> I'd offer you a raft of web cites on this, but I figure that as an amateur
> scholar, you might prefer to look and verify the history of the KJV and of
> the Nicean council for yourself. But let me know if you need pointers.
>> lojbab
Thanks for the clarification. I will update my knowledge base.
The Shadow Dancer
