"Shadow Dancer" <insomniac at winterslight.org> wrote:
>"Jd" <JDay123 at BellSouth.com> wrote in message
>news:3d373223.31275042 at news1.lig.bellsouth.net...>> >Take your oversimplification of a PARABLE elsewhere. That portion of the
>> >Old Testament was entirely skewed by the all-male Council of Nicea - who
>> >came up with your King James version of the Holy Christian Bible.
>>>> The Nicene council of 325 AD did not write the KJV. Helloooooo
>> anyone out there???
>As for the Council of Nicea - yes, Jd, they not only re-translated the
>Bible, but decided what books would stay and which would not - all based on
>how much power the Church under King James could have over people. Period.
>It was all about power and money then, and it's even more so, now.
>>I am an amateur scholar at such things so I know whence I speak. I wager
>you never bothered to investigate the truth yourself, independant of your
>church. It's a shame to see yet another one scared by "visions of Hell"
>into not having a mind of their own.
Unfortunately, Shadow Dancer, you are wrong about this one. The Nicean
Council had nothing to do with King James or the English translation of the
Bible, taking place more than a millennium before the latter.
The Nicean Council made the final decision in what was already more or less
determined - which writings pertaining to Christ would be considered part of
the canon, and what order would be canonical. If the Council made any
translation of the Bible it would have been into Latin or possible Greek, but
the oldest surviving text of the entire Bible is the Vulgate, which I believe
came from a century after the Nicean Council.
The earliest translations into English came several hundred years later, and
were considered heretical. After Henry VIII made the Protestant Church of
England the established church, it was only a matter of time before a
Protestant king would commission an English language translation of the
scripture, and King James did so in the early 1600s, nearly 1300 years after
Niceae.
It is true that Fundamentalist Christians seem to forget that the King James
version of the Bible IS a translation, and many of their idiosyncratic
doctrines stem from the English wording of the translation, and are not
necessarily implied by other translations into other languages, but that is a
separate debate.
I'd offer you a raft of web cites on this, but I figure that as an amateur
scholar, you might prefer to look and verify the history of the KJV and of
the Nicean council for yourself. But let me know if you need pointers.
lojbab
