"John Knight" <johnknight at usa.com> wrote in
news:gAiZ8.4947$Fq6.256849 at news2.west.cox.net:
>> "GodEvolved" <nospam at spam.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns924CF021D77DEnospamcom at 198.164.200.20...>>angilion at ypical.fsnet.co.uk (Angilion) wrote in
>> news:3d333c95.21227708 at news.freeserve.net:
>>>> > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:18:30 GMT, "John Knight"
>> > <johnknight at usa.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>"OhSojourner" <ohsojourner at aol.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:ce660175.0207141147.10aa9d8 at posting.google.com...>> >>> John Knight wrote:
>> >
>> > [..]
>> >
>> >>> >But to the rest of the normal people in the country, namely the
>> >>> >91% who reject this "theory" of evolution,
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you have a cite for this claim? (A non-subjective one)
>> >>
>> >>Well, it's a bit difficult to come up with a "non-subjective" cite
>> >>for public opinion, as public opinion is precisely
>> >>that--subjective.
>> >>
>> >>The Gallup Poll, where it has its serious credibility problems,
>> >>shows that only 9% of Americans accept the "theory of evolution" as
>> >>its been historically defined:
>> >>http://christianparty.net/gallupcreation.htm>> >
>> > Well, the sample size is large enough (1000) *if* it was a random
>> > selection from across the whole of the USA, and it does show that
>> > only 9% of the people questioned believe that God had *no part*
>> > in the development of humanity.
>>>> "chrstianparty.net" "random selection". ?
>>>> "What's wrong with this picture" is that you failed to note that
> christianparty.net didn't conduct this poll. As unreliable and biased
> as the Gallup Organization is, this was THEIR poll, not
And yet, as unreliable and biased as the Gallup Organization is(so you
claim), you *still* used the results off their poll when it suited your
agenda? That's interesting.
> christianparty.net's. Why would you have such a low opinion of
> Americans that you would even believe that as many as 9% of them fell
> for this "theory" of evolution fairy tale in the first place?
Does your God really go about lying to His people? BTW, John, can your God
create a stone He cannot lift?
>>> >
>> > It is evidence that most people in the USA do not believe in the
>> > theory of evolution. It is not evidence that the theory of
>> > evolution is wrong, nor is it evidence that the theory of
>> > creationism is right. There cannot be any evidence of the latter,
>> > by definition, as it is a matter of faith.
>> >
>> > As an aside, why do you believe that all known forms of dating
>> > material are wildly incorrect? If humanity is only 3000 or 6000
>> > years old (both figures are given on the above website), all the
>> > dating of all human remains or human-created items older
>> > than 3000?6000? years must be wrong. Or are you arguing that
>> > there were people on Earth before humans?
>>>> God is tricky. I should know. He only plants false evidence to test
>> our faith in Him, you know. I wonder: do the Creationists believe
>> that God is similar to a perjurer who plants false evidence to
>> convict an innocent man in order to test the intelligence of the
>> Prosecutors?
>>>> What God did was make "evolutionists" STUPID enough that they would
> "think" that they have "evidence" to support all sorts of wild claims,
> while He made 91% of Americans SMART enough to flat out reject those
> claims.
Smart enough, John? Interesting selective quoting there, John.
<quote>
Views on evolution highly related to age and education
Older and less educated Americans are more likely to reject evolution than
are the younger and more educated population groups. American adults under
the age of 30, for example, accept either one of the two evolutionary
explanations for the origins of human beings (either guided by God or not)
by a margin of 56% to 42%, very similar to the pattern of responses in the
30-49 age group (53% to 44%). However, the 50-64 age group is about evenly
divided on the issue, with 47% who accept evolution and 50% who say God
created human beings about 10,000 years ago. And among Americans 65 and
older, only 33% accept evolution, while 60% reject it.
Americans' level of education is also closely related to beliefs about
evolution, with only 41% of non-college Americans accepting evolution and
55% rejecting it. Americans with "some" college, by contrast, favor
evolution by a 50% to 45% margin, compared with a 58% to 41% margin of
support among college graduates, and a 66% to 30% margin of support among
those with some post-graduate education.
</quote>
I guess your own poll reveals that those with no or little education
support Creationism over Evolution, but only by a fairly small margin.
BTW, your 9% is bullshit, You have to add the other 40% that believe that
God guided the process. Funny thing about you religious fanatics, John.
You seem incapable of believing that God can create a process. You seem to
think that God creates every single thing, that nothing in the Universe is
alive, that nothing evolves, that nothing changes, not even God. Why do
you limit your God that way, John? Why do you reject the beauty of
Creation, the beauty of a living, loving organism, and replace with a dead,
sterile space, where nothing *really* lives, but merely exists?
<quote>
Which of the following statements comes closest to your views on the origin
and development of human beings --
99 Aug 97 Nov 93 Jun 1982
Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms
of life, but God guided this process. 40% 39% 35% 38%
Human beings have developed over millions of years from lessadvanced forms
of life. God had no part in this process. 9 10 11 9
God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time
within the last 10,000 years or so. 47 44 47 44
No opinion 4 7 7 9
100% 100% 100% 100%
</quote>
>> I know. I know. Barbie Doll told you "math is so hard". But it
> obviously wasn't so hard for most Americans that they were incapable
> of accomplishing the logical assessment necessary to *reject* Darwin's
> "theory" as sheer feminazi psychobabble [read: Darwin was a child in a
> man's body http://christianparty.net/darwin.htm ].
>> John Knight
>>>>>>>
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"...What you have to understand, young lady, is that the Greeks, not
content with dominating the culture of the Classical world, are also
responsible for the greatest, some would say the only, work of true
creative imagination produced this century as well. I refer of course to
the Greek ferry timetables. A work of the sublimest fiction. Anyone who
has travelled the Aegean will confirm this..." Professor Watkin - Dirk
Gently's Holistic Detective Agency
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