"OhSojourner" <ohsojourner at aol.com> wrote in message > > > >
> > > > I'm female, and I was a numerical mathematics major in college.
> > > >
> > > > My IQ tested off the scale.
> > > >
> > > > So much for your theories.
> > >
> > > We're talking about the average. And the fact that you think a single
> > > anecdote refutes this, doesn't speak well for your reasoning.
>> True, anecdotes don't make for a sound logical argument, but beyond
> that, what's you're point? What's your underlying motivation behind
> this thread?
It's a little bit worse than that. Even IF you're an outlier, something
that your response suggests you couldn't possibly be, it's an irrelevant
data point which doesn't affect the averages AT ALL. It's not just that
it's an anecdote--it's that you plainly stated that your "IQ tested off the
scale" so my "theories" were faulty. That's not true (and these are not my
"theories", either).
>> I'll concede that the sexes are not equal. ...But then again, we
> don't find "equality" AMONG the sexes either.
>
It's the difference between the sexes we're speaking of, and your inability
to comprehend averages as suggested above is a good demonstration of it.
> For example, you speak of mathematical achievers as being
> overwhelmingly male... but that doesn't mean that ALL men are
> mathematically gifted. It only means that mathematical achievers are
> more likely to be male. And, they may only comprise a tiny fraction
> of the entire male population, in which case we cannot make the
> assumption that they are even *representative* of the entire male
> population.
But when the *entire* male population is tested, and when they're compared
against the female population that's been tested, the gaps are similar to
those on the GRE, which less than 0.2% of the population take every year.
Are there SOME females who score higher than SOME males? Yes. But the
issue isn't what happens at the low end, it's the high achievers who're of
the most interest when we're discussing "IQ".
Asian women score 126 points higher than Black men in GRE. So what? They
score 14 points lower than White men, 66 points lower than Asian men, and
103 points lower than the 51,000 foreign men who take the GRE every year.
The gap is even wider at the upper tenth percentile.
>> I'd let the issue drop at that, except I remember that you're that guy
> who believes that the Nineteenth Amendment ought to be repealed, women
> ought not to have driving privileges nor even be allowed to attend
> college.
>> Question: Which group represents the highest ten percent of IQ
> scores?
>> Is it men?
>> Is it white people?
>> No. It's "the individuals who make up that highest ten percent."
> This is the most precise answer and eliminates all allowance for
> error.
>
There is, of course, a more precise answer which feminazis don't want to
hear, but which will be presented for your viewing pleasure anyway. The top
tenth percentile, or 24,946 of GRE test takers, score higher than 730. Even
though men are only 41% of GRE test takers, they're 92% of the top tenth
percentile.
So the precise answer to your question is that 92% are men and 8% are women.
John Knight
