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> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > If Grace Murray Hopper really did invent the
> > compiler,
> > > > then
> > > > > > her impact has
> > > > > > > > been far beyond that of Marie Curie, and most
Nobel
> > > > Laureates
> > > > > > in general.
> > > > > > > > http://www.sdsc.edu/ScienceWomen/hopper.html> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > She did. She also was the first to "debug" a
> > computer:).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > T9W
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.byte.com/art/9404/sec15/art1.htm> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sorry. Low score in English? You must have
> > misinterpreted
> > > > the quotation
> > > > > marks.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I merely cited (and quoted) a differing point of view.
Why
> > did
> > > > you delete the entire quote, and offer nothing in
rebuttal
> > except
> > > > ad-hominem?
> > >
> > > But you didn't.
> >
> > I didn't what? Cite and quote?
> >
> > > I never stated that she coined the term,..
> >
> > I never accused you of claiming that. I never implied it
either.
> >
> > > ..which is what you refuted.
> >
> > Please cite one sentence I wrote that supports your claim
that I
> > "refuted" something I never accused you of claiming.
> >
> > Think before you go hormonal - I tried to be most careful in
what
> > I posted just to avoid this kind of eruption from you.
> >
> > > I merely stated that she was the first to "debug" (not
debug) a
> > > computer, which is general concensus, as a moth had never
been
> > known to have
> > > entered a computer before the time of her log.
> >
> > Please restore the text you deleted, and you'll see that I
never
> > challenged that - I only pointed you to dissenting opinions.
> >
>> Below:
>> > She did. She also was the first to "debug" a computer:).
> >
> > T9W
>> /* Here I state that she is the first to "debug" a computer. */
>>http://www.byte.com/art/9404/sec15/art1.htm>> "Hopper and her colleagues must have thought the discovery of
the
> moth remarkable because mechanical defects were already called
> bugs. Her September 9, 1945, log entry, which reads, "First
> actual case of bug being found," makes this quite clear.
>> Even the
> verb debug must have predated Mark II, since the OED cites a
1945
> use in the Journal of the Royal Aeronautical Society, which was
> probably preceded by sev eral years of oral use in engineering
> slang.
>> /*Here your cite claims that the term debug was already used.
Neither I nor
> Grace Hopper disputed that.*/
>> The argument is clinched by remarks made by J. Presper Eckert,
> the coinventor of ENIAC, the first fully electronic digital
> computer. In an interview in Computerworld (George Harrar, "In
> the Beginning...," November 3, 1986), Eckert was asked, "Do you
> know how the term bug originated?" He replied, "I know how
Grace
> Hopper thinks it originated. She tells this fanciful story. As
> far as I know, this was a term in use by engineers, both
> mechanical and electrical, for difficulties in the equipment
long
> before Grace Hopper ever heard of any of these things. What it
> amounts to is that it was a new term to Grace. I've never
called
> her up and told her that that's nuts, but it is nuts. That term
> was in wide use before then."
>> /* Here this author claims that Admiral Hopper said she coined
the term. She
> did not. She made a joke upon finding an actual bug in the
computer, hence
> claiming to be the first to "debug" a computer. FWIW, computers
are not
> usually debugged, programs are.*/
>> **************************************************************
>> Nothing in your cite disputes the fact that she was the first
to "debug" a
> computer, which is what I said. So why did you cite and quote a
refutation
> of the origination of the term?
Just a point of interest.
[...]
> I, for one, am glad she was tenacious, a quality usually
frowned upon in
> women.
Don't be so defensive. I didn't claim otherwise.
