"Angilion" <angilion at ypical.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:46:23 GMT, Bob LeChevalier <lojbab at lojban.org>
> wrote:
>> [..]
>> >The reason for going back to Marie Curie is that she was especially
> >noteworthy among scientists in general, made one of the most significant
> >discoveries of her time, did so under conditions even more adverse than
women
> >face today, and was recognized within the first couple of years after the
> >Nobel prizes were established. (She also raised a daughter to the level
that
> >30 years later she also won a Nobel prize in the sciences.)
>> I am not surprised to see you ignoring Frederic Joliot-Curie as well as
> Pierre Curie. After all, they were only men.
>> Marie Curie won her first Nobel *jointly* with Pierre Curie (the Curies
> were awarded half the Nodel Prize for Physics in 1903, the other
> half going to Henri Becquerel for the discovery of the very thing the
> Curies later investigated further, having seen Becquerel's work)
>> Irene Joliot-Curie won her Nobel *jointly* with Frederic Joliot (sometimes
> called Frederic Joliot-Curie).
>> What evidence do you have to prove your assertion that Pierre Curie
> played no role at all in raising Irene Curie? She was 9 when he died.
> Is it reasonable to say that he had *no* role in raising her?
>> Marie Curie is noteworthy amongst scientists in general. It is a shame
> that so many people consider her noteworthiness to be about her
> genitals rather than her mind.
>> >That her husband requested her recognition is because he admitted that
she
> >was at least as instrumental in the discovery as he was. In other words,
he
> >was honest, unlike yourself.
>> Pierre Curie was a very modest, uncompetitive man who deliberately worked
> to ensure that Marie Curie got most, if not all, of the credit for the
> work they did together.
>> If a man and a woman collaberate on a project, is it really fair that
> only the woman gets any recognition outside their peer group for the
> work they did jointly?
>
Pierre was also suffering from the latent effects of radiation poisoning,
which must have affected his judgment (maybe it was the atom bomb testing in
Nevada that created these "feminazi" monsters on this forum?).
John Knight
