Richard C. August <raugust at ptd.net> wrote in message
news:KxnY8.33445$Q43.1034999 at nnrp1.ptd.net...
> Dear Mrs. Smith,
>> Consider the story of Joe Brown, the educator who turned East Side High
> School in Elizabethtown, NJ from a jungle to an institution of higher
> learning. He evicted the dregs summarily. He locked them out of the
school
> so they could never return. He had the halls and walls painted by those
who
> formerly scrawled graffitti on them. He enforced study hall rules. He
> personally met each child and talked with them and cared about them. He
> instituted Adult Literacy Courses for their parents who could not read.
> Never mind that Joe Brown is a Negro, a Colored man, a Black man. Never
> mind that one of Hollywood's finest and strongest actors, Morgan Freeman,
> portrayed him in a movie, long after he played "Easy Reader" on the
> Children's Television Workshop program "The Electric Company". Joe Brown
> cared and cares for his students, and I believe Morgan Freeman would do
the
> same. After Mr. Brown was jailed for violations of School Code for
locking
> the School Doors with chains, preventing a fire drill from taking place
and
> calling the police "the enemy", his kids came in civil disobedience
marching
> en masse to the court house to secure his release from prison. Guess what
> else happened? School operating costs in Elizabethtown either remained at
> the same level or went DOWN, because teachers finally cared about
students,
> students finally cared about learning, and they settled to the business of
> educating the educable and leaving the dregs behind.
>> Even a black teacher from an urban school district realised that
"universal
> education" WASN'T WORKABLE. Now, it's time for US to ALL SUMMARILY FOLLOW
> Joe Brown's lead. Face it, Mrs. Smith, universal education will NEVER
work.
> All it will do is all it ever has done, and that is to CO$T AMERICAN
> TAXPAYER$ BILLION$ of DOLLAR$ in wasted school tax money. The end result
is
> an endless supply of careless, ignorant waste cases, with only a few
> diamonds in the rough.
What a glowing testimony! I'm sure Joe Clark is wondering when the hell he
lost his job, and just who this Joe "Brown" character is that is taking
credit for what he accomplished.
T9W
>> Consider again the original TIMSS Scores from 1995. Consider the children
> on the street where you live. Consider the clothes they wear, the food
they
> eat, and the cars they drive and the jobs they work. The question is no
> longer, "What is the square root of 3 divided by 2?" or "From where did
> your parents come?". Instead, it's "You're 14 and you're still a virgin?
> Like, how did THAT happen? My God, doesn't anybody LIKE you?", or "That's
a
> real woman? That sure isn't my mother!"
>> God bless you in your effort to discover the truth about education and the
> American Teenager.
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>> Richard C. August
>> "Hope Munro Smith" <hopems at mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
> news:hopems-1407020903140001 at cs6625171-151.austin.rr.com...> > In article <rK3Y8.33351$Q43.1013368 at nnrp1.ptd.net>, "Richard C. August"
> > <raugust at ptd.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Hope Munro Smith,
> > >
> > > Mere books and uniforms do not account for the cost of SHEER STUPIDITY
> in
> > > the American Educational Systems.
> > >
> > > My mother related this story to me last night. A gentleman she knows
> > > inquired of three teenage children on the streets of my hometown
> concerning
> > > who bombed Pearl Harbor at the beginning of US involvement in World
War
> 2.
> > > One teen answered that US Forces bombed our own base under friendly
> fire.
> > > Another answered that Usama bin Laden bombed Pearl Harbor, when he
> wasn't
> > > born until c. 1959, since he was 12 in a photo featuring his family in
> > > Sweden in 1971. Yet another answered most intelligently, that he
didn't
> > > know.
> > >
> > > A former PA state Gubernatorial candidate, Peg Luksik, remarked in a
> > > campaign speech made to senior citizens in a senior center, that a
girl
> who
> > > learned phonetic spelling could never figure out that "apple" was
> spelled
> > > a-p-p-l-e when she was told that phonetically, she could spell it any
> way
> > > she pleased, so she chose a-p-l.
> > >
> > > Never mind that our kids never learn real American History or
Spelling,
> or
> > > that they learn revisionist standards from highly paid but untrained
> > > professors who earned their degrees from diploma mills and were
promoted
> by
> > > the Peter Principle. Our kids are rapidly becoming even more
> INCOMPETENT
> > > than are these professors, to the point that they can't even figure
out
> the
> > > numbers on a calculator, much less work a slide rule.
> > >
> > > Lastly, I was taking an evening walk last night, when I observed
several
> > > teen girls rather provocatively dressed. Granted, it is summertime
and
> they
> > > need to dress to be cool. But to wear clothes only a prostitute would
> wear
> > > would make one wonder where their brains really are. Can they read
> clothing
> > > labels, or bottles of hair colourant? Is it any wonder our American
> Schools
> > > are now wasting more money and talent with day care centers in our
high
> > > schools whilst pregnant teenagers usurp our tax dollars ostensibly
> obtaining
> > > an education when they've been told flat out they can earn more money
on
> > > their backs than they can on their feet?
> > >
> > > Face it, Mrs. Smith, American Schools are a dungheap, and American
> Children
> > > are its fodder. Billions of American dollars are wasted educating the
> > > uneducable MTV generation, who care nothing about the real world other
> than
> > > watching "The Real World" on MTV. Talk to these kids, and find out
how
> > > dumb, or how smart, they really are. "Beavis and Butthead" have met
> their
> > > progeny here.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard C. August
> >
> > Dear Mr. August,
> > I was not taking about the quality of education, I was merely
> > making an observation about the source of funds. More money
> > comes out of public funds for education in North America,
> > whereas in other countries parents assume a larger share
> > of the cost. However, we also guarantee universal education,
> > whereas in many parts of the world only those who can afford
> > to send their kids to school do so.
> >
> >
> > > "John Knight" <johnknight at usa.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qaMX8.49430$P%6.3485518 at news2.west.cox.net...> > > >
> > > > "Hope Munro Smith" <hopems at mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
> > > > news:hopems-1207022039410001 at cs6625171-151.austin.rr.com...> > > > > In article <AhLX8.49083$P%6.3468866 at news2.west.cox.net>, "John
> Knight"
> > > > > <johnknight at usa.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Cary Kittrell" <cary at afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:agn34f$hla$1 at oasis.ccit.arizona.edu...> > > > > > > In article <SZCX8.47920$P%6.3357792 at news2.west.cox.net>
> > > > > > > "John Knight" <johnknight at usa.com> writes:
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > <"Shadow Dancer" <insomniac at winterslight.org> wrote in message
> > > > > > > <news:agm2br$mukqa$1 at ID-150265.news.dfncis.de...> > > > > > > <> Here are some I just dug up:
> > > > > > > <>
> > > > > > > {...}
> > > > > > > <>
> > > > > > > <> And yet another:
> > > > > > > <> http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/heshe.html> > > > > > > <>
> > > > > > > <> My terminology was wrong, I meant the corpus callosum.
> Either
> > > way,
> > > > > > women
> > > > > > > <> use their entire brains more efficiently than men do and,
> once
> > > > again,
> > > > > > size
> > > > > > > <> does NOT matter :P
> > > > > > > <>
> > > > > > > <>
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > <Not only was your terminology wrong, but so were your
> conclusions.
> > > > Here
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > <some I just dug up. In the following 12 subjects, no country
> > > scored
> > > > > > lower
> > > > > > > <than American 12th Grade Girls who scored:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What Johnny isn't telling you is that he "just" dug these up
> years
> > > > ago,
> > > > > > > and has been drawing erroneous conclusions ever since. For
> example
> > > > > > > he also is not telling you that:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > <Zero percent of American 12th grade girls correctly solved
> TIMSS
> > > math
> > > > > > > <problems.
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > <Zero percent of American 12th grade girls correctly solved
> TIMSS
> > > > physics
> > > > > > > <problems.
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > that I have twice in the past demonstrated that his "method"
of
> > > > > > "analysis"
> > > > > > > which "led" to the above "conclusions" would also "lead" to
the
> > > > > > "conclusions"
> > > > > > > that:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a. anyone answering all questions correctly should
receive
> a
> > > > > > > mark of only 80%, and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > b. five out of every four girls got one question wrong.
Can
> > > > > > > you say reduction ad absurdem?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's not the girls who can't apply math correctly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Google has it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -- cary
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let's use a simple example of how wrong you are, cary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Question K09 on the 12th Grade TIMSS Math test given to 12th
> graders
> > > > around
> > > > > > the world in 1995 reveals an astounding difference in math
skills
> > > > between
> > > > > > the sexes in all the countries who participated. The average
> > > difference
> > > > in
> > > > > > all countries was 10.5%, with 47.3% of boys and 36.8% of girls
> > > answering
> > > > > > correctly, but the difference in the US was 22.1% (28.6% of
girls
> and
> > > > 50.7%
> > > > > > of boys). In countries like Cyprus where 60.1% of the boys
> answered
> > > > > > correctly, guesses on the test would not have influenced the
> scores by
> > > > that
> > > > > > much, but where only 28.6% of American girls answered correctly,
> > > guesses
> > > > > > must be taken into account.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since this was a multiple choice question with four possible
> choices,
> > > > the
> > > > > > probability of getting the correct answer just by guessing is
25%.
> In
> > > > other
> > > > > > words, for every four students who guessed, one of them would
have
> > > > gotten
> > > > > > the correct answer by chance. The maximum score would have been
> > > > achieved
> > > > > > had all the students who didn't understand the problem guessed
at
> the
> > > > > > answer, so where 28.6% of American girls answered the problem
> > > correctly,
> > > > > > 23.8% of them got the correct answer by guessing, and 4.8%
> indicated
> > > > that
> > > > > > they understood the problem [x = total guesses, 0.25x = correct
> > > guesses,
> > > > > > 0.75x = incorrect guesses = 71.4%, x = 95.2%, 0.25x = 23.8%,
28.6%
> got
> > > > the
> > > > > > correct answer - 23.8% guessed the correct answer = 4.8%
> understood
> > > the
> > > > > > problem]. However, with an estimated error of plus or minus 3%,
> only
> > > > 1.8%
> > > > > > are known with certainty to have understood the problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > American boys didn't do that much better, since [prior to the
> > > adjustment
> > > > for
> > > > > > the 3% error] just 34.3% of them got the correct answer because
> they
> > > > > > understood the problem, 16.4% got the correct answer because
they
> > > > guessed,
> > > > > > and 49.3% guessed incorrectly. Thus only 31.3% are known with
> > > certainty
> > > > to
> > > > > > have understood the problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Prior to adjustment for the 3% error, 53.2% of the boys in
Cyprus
> > > > guessed,
> > > > > > 39.9% guessed incorrectly, 13.3% guessed correctly, and 46.8%
> > > understood
> > > > the
> > > > > > problem [x = total guesses, 0.25x = correct guesses, 0.75x =
> incorrect
> > > > > > guesses = 39.9%, x = 53.2%, 0.25x = 13.3%, and 60.1% correct
> answers -
> > > > 13.3%
> > > > > > correct guesses = 46.8% who understood the problem]. Only 43.8%
> are
> > > > known
> > > > > > with certainty to have understood the problem, so per capita,
> compared
> > > > to
> > > > > > American boys 40% more boys in Cyprus are known to have
understood
> the
> > > > > > problem, and compared to American girls, 24 times as many were.
> > > > Compared to
> > > > > > American girls, 17 times as many American boys are known to have
> > > > understood
> > > > > > the problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this adequate proof that our attempt to establish "gender
> equality"
> > > > is a
> > > > > > failure? Yes. To achieve that ephemeral goal, our "educators
> began
> > > an
> > > > > > unnecessary and destructive "gender war" of unprecedented
> proportions,
> > > > more
> > > > > > than doubled education spending as a percent of GDP, and
out-spent
> by
> > > > more
> > > > > > than three times countries whose students far outperformed ours.
> > > Japan,
> > > > > > whose 8th graders scored 105 points higher than ours, spends
half
> as
> > > > much
> > > > > > for education. Korea, whose 8th graders scored 107 points
higher
> than
> > > > ours,
> > > > > > spends even less per student than Japan.
> > > > > > http://christianparty.net/timssgeometry.htm> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The link on that page might be hard to find, so you can go directly
to
> it
> > > at
> > > > http://christianparty.net/timssk09.htm> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is because parents assume a larger portion of the
> > > > > cost of education than they do in the United States.
> > > > > In most other countries, parents have to buy
> > > > > all their children's school books, supplies, uniforms,
> > > > > plus pay for transportation to and from school. No school
> > > > > buses subsidized by the community or free lunch
> > > > > programs. There goes part of your theory. Anyone else
> > > > > want to trash the rest of it?
> > > >
> > > > Do you REALLY think this would double the cost of "education"?
> > > >
> > > > John Knight
> > > >
> > > >
>>
