"Mark D. Morin" <mdmpsyd at NOSPAMgwi.net> wrote in message
news:3D2C0CD7.8090109 at NOSPAMgwi.net...
> > Why would you ask a question with such an obvious answer? Of course
there
> > are "systemic gender [read: sex] differences". The biological,
> > physiological, physical, emotional, mental, educational, spiritual,
> > intellectual differences between the "genders" [read: sexes] are so
> > different that they're almost opposites in some features.
>> unfortunately, such differences are not replicable nor consistent across
> studies.
>
It's hard to take you seriously, Mark, when you make a statement like that.
As far as I know, about the ONLY test or contest or statistic or empirical
evidence that fails to measure these "systemic gender differences" are
so-called "IQ tests". Every other contest or test ever developed shows this
marked difference between the sexes. A good example is springboard diving,
which is something you would think women would be reasonably good at
compared to men, because it doesn't require the obvious advantage that men
have in speed and strength. But the lowest scoring man springboard diver in
Olympics contests scores 30-40% higher than the very best woman springboard
diver.
If you have difficulty understanding the graphs at
http://christianparty.net/olympics.htm let me know and I'll be glad to
explain them to you.
>> >
> > The data has already been referenced which shows that the 18% difference
in
> > the average brain size of men and women, coupled with the narrow
standard
> > deviation in the brain size of both sexes, is one WHOPPING difference.
>> The data have not been referenced. What has been referenced
> demonstrated that measurement error was greater than gender differences.
>
In which statistic do you believe this to be the case? In GRE scores?
Absolutely not. The very biggest measurement difference by race and sex in
GRE scores is for Indian men who scored 19 points higher in 1999 than they
did in 1997, but the sex difference between Indian men and Indian women is
consistently between 52 and 69 points. Even if 100% of this variation is
due to measurement errors, the difference between the sexes is 3-4 times
greater than that.
There could be other reasons Indian scores changed by that much,
particularly since most other GRE scores by sex and race didn't change by
more than 1-4 points. Over three years, 1997, 1998, and 1999, GRE
Quantitative scores for White men were 586, 588, and 589, respectively, and
for White women 514, 518, and 516. The sex difference was 72, 70, and 73
points, which is 17 times greater than the widest possible measurement
error.
iow, I'm completely unfamiliar with what measurement you might be talking
about which varies by more than the difference between the sexes.
If you have difficulty locating these original scores, which seem to have
been moved or removed from the ETS web site, let me know and I'll send you
the original .pdf files (which are very large).
>> > Just as we know
>> apparently, we have a different definition of what it means "to know."
> --
Well, you were the one who earlier claimed that "logic" requires a reliance
on statistical evidence, and now that you have the statistical evidence, you
seem to be claiming that this is no longer the case.
John Knight
