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brain sizes: Einstein's and women's

Jet thatjetnospam at yahoo.com
Sun Jul 7 17:32:35 EST 2002



Tom Breton wrote:
> 
> "Mark D. Morin" <mdmpsyd at PETERHOOD69gwi.net> writes:
> 
> [attempted followup to "alt.usenet.kooks" disobeyed.]
> 
> > Peter Douglas Zohrab apparently has no grasp of statistical analyses and
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Mark Morin tried unsuccessfully to cover up his inability to refute my
> > > points, in his message (repeated below, with my comments added):
> > >
> > > "Mark D. Morin" <mdmpsyd at PETERHOOD69gwi.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3D26D82C.CDCF294F at gwi.net...
> > > > Peter Douglas Zohrab wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What I am leading up to here is that the above webpage tries to ignore
> > > size
> > > > > and concentrate on structure, for the simple reason that the two authors
> > > are
> > > > > both female,
> > > >
> > > > ah no. it's because you compare apples to apples not to oranges.
> > >
> > > I don't know what you consider to be an intelligent refutation, but using a
> > > primary school metaphor doesn't cut any ice with me.  Could you please
> > > attempt -- however pathetically -- to explain the relevance of fruit to this
> > > discussion ?
> >
> > If you have an apriori reason to believe to samples are different and
> > you have an anomolous subject in one sample, you test for differences
> > from the sample the subject came from, not the other one.
> 
> Slow down a bit.  You imply you're addressing the issue of "Why
> compare Einstein's brain to male brains and not female?".  But that's
> not exactly the issue Peter raised, and in this context the
> substitution is a bit unfair.  He pointed out that the effect is "to
> ignore size and concentrate on structure", and your argument doesn't
> refute that.

They said the size of Einstein's brain was not a factor in his
extraordinary intelligence, as his brain was of average size. So why
concentrate on size?

> 
> And certainly it's reasonable to compare against a range of sample
> classes: all human brains, male human brains, physicists' brains.  The
> insistent focus on never using the wider comparison tends to support
> Peter's point in a backhanded way.  You could argue that it would be
> like comparing against monkey brains, which we know simply aren't as
> capable as human brains, but I don't think you want to make that
> analogy.

If Zohrab were asking her to compare the relative sizes of parts of
female and male brains, he's have a point. 

I really think he is playing dumb so he can whine about how he is being
ignored or silenced or whatever.

J

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