On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:08:36 GMT, "Glen M. Sizemore"
<gmsizemore at triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>If perception requires copies, then how is it that we
>>perceive the copies? Putting the world inside the
>>head is no explanation of perception.
>>IAN: Well, we do perceive data inside our brain and
>I suspect we can agree that that's what happens
>when you are dreaming during sleep. Exactly how
>that happens is a deeper issue than that which I've
>addressed in my essay:
>http://users.erols.com/igoddard/paranorm.htm>>Glen: No, we don't perceive "data inside our brain."
>We "must do something else with it" since
>perceiving requires copies.
IAN: If no data in the brain is perceived,
then where do you perceive your dreams? I
guess you're saying that during dreaming
your brain has not modeled a simulated
world you inhabit in a simulated body.
>IAN: The claim that we see anything outside of our
>brain is automatically refuted by the physical fact
>that you can't perceive a thing before data radiating
>from it has reached and entered your brain.
>>Glen: This is nonsense. But I don't expect you to
>understand, and I do not expect you to even attempt
>to understand.
IAN: So why don't you explain how an observer can
see, for example, a super nova before photons from
that super nova have reached the observer's brain?
Maybe by dialing the Psychic Friends Network? :)
>IAN: Given that all perceived data is inside the brain,
>it follows that all you perceive is in your brain,
>and is a representation of the unseen external world.
>>Glen: Who has "given" this? The notion that the
>world somehow penetrates the person is the worse
>thing that ever happened to psychology, philosophy,
>and neurobiology.
IAN: It sounds like the representational model
of perception challenges your world paradigm.
It also challenged mine, but because I was not
able to explain how you can perceive data before
it enters your brain, I modified my world paradigm.
The result was a model that explains many anomalies.
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