>when i call, or visit, places that are, via their professed purposes,
>involved,
>in one way or another, in the denial of the work's communication, no one will
>even talk with me.
'for the record', there've been some such places that i've called with my
routine opening sentence being, "Don't say anything. Just listen."
and that, with few exceptions, is the way it went.
K. P. Collins