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"Will" (free or whatever)

Robert E. Gangwer ordinaryzen at silcom.com
Thu Jul 22 13:38:53 EST 1999


What about the free will to be born in the first place?  Learning how to
work the new human body is'nt even necessarily an act of will.  Will
isn't even physical, anyway.

Yours in consciousness,

Robert

"Arthur T. Murray" wrote:

> flefever at ix.netcom.com brachiated to a keyboard and typed randomly:
>
> > Given the perennial worry about "free will" and the brain
> > and causality and all that, which provokes a spate of ill-
> > informed and poorly thought out manifestos from time to time
> > in this newsgroup, it is fortunate that the July issue of
> > American Psychologist (chief publication of the American
> > Psychological Association, the only one which is sent to
> > ALL members of APA) is devoted to various aspects of the
> > concept of "will".
>
> http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/aisource.html Mind.Forth Robot AI
> -- released into the public domain on 19jul1999 for IBM-clones--
> is based on a mind-model that treats the will as a summation-
> process weighing the pros and cons of motor initiative options.
>
> Human babies lie in their cribs and fire their motor neurons
> haphazardly long before they brachiate across the boudoir.
>
> > My quick skim of the contents suggests that these papers
> > include little or no reference to specific brain mechanisms,
> > but the discussions are empirically grounded in experimental
> > ("cognitive psychology") studies--which, of course, may suggest
> > specific questions to address in brain function investigations.
>
> The babies randomly assemble a command network of their concept
> of hand to the movement of the hand, of foot to the kick of the
> foot, in ever finer finesse as life goes on.  Thus the thought
> centers (which have been replicated and released as Mind.Forth)
> "inherit" motor options over the 639 muscles in the human body.
>
> > Would be good background reading so as to have something
> > meaningful to talk about the next time the "free will"
> > question rears its ugly head.
>
> Control of the 639 muscles is handed down in the mind-grid:
>
>   Hearing    Vision    Concepts Volition Emotion   Motor Output
>  /iiiiiii\  /!i!i!i!\          -infancy-         /YYYYYYYYYYYY\
> | ||||||| || ||||||| |   T                       | |||||||||||| |
> | ||||||| || | ___ | |   +                       | |||||||||||| |
> | ||||||| ||  /   \  |   +                       | |S|||||||||| |
> | ||||||| || (image)-|---+_                      | |H|||||||||| |
> | ||||||| ||  \___/  |  /  \                     | |A|||||||||| |
> | ||||||| ||         | (idea)  -maturity-   __   | |K|||||||||| |
> | | ||||| ||         |  \__/---------------/  \  | |E|||R|||||| |
> | |d------||---------|---+        ____    (fear)-|--*|||U|||||| |
> | ||||o|| ||         |   +-------/    \----\__/  | |||||N|||P|| |
> | ||g|||| ||         |   +      / de-  \---------|------*|||E|| |
> | || |||| ||         |   +     (  ci-   )        | |||||||||T|| |
> | ||||||| ||         |   +      \ sion /---------|----------*|| |
> | ||||||| ||         |   +       \____/          | |||||||||||| |
>
> > F. Frank LeFever, Ph.D. [ is a good sport and can take a joke ]
> > New York Neuropsychology Group




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