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Visual space anomaly

Ken Collins KPaulC at email.msn.com
Tue Jul 20 16:49:34 EST 1999


forgive me, but this stuff is all quite old. NPR did a segment on it on
21Sep96, and it was more than a decade old by then.

ken collins

F. Frank LeFever wrote in message <7n0q1v$7ae at dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>...
>
>Tore makes an important point, I believe.  In my own response, I made
>reference to derealization, and to temporal lobe epilepsy; others have
>referred to "non-neurological" contexts for experiences of
>derealization and/or depersonalization.
>
>Given the confluence of limbic system and sensory systems in the
>medial temporal lobe, there are rich opportunities for sensory
>distortions with this sort of emotional flavor.
>
>However, just as regards temporal lobe alone, we know from (e.g.) Mort
>Mishkin's work (much of it with Leslie Ungerleider) something about the
>different paths visual input takes to the hippocampus (they have
>focused on the distinction between dorsal "where" and ventral "what"
>visual streams).  Accordingly, we should be alert to aberrations at
>earlier points along these routes which might produce "pure" visual
>anomalies without any social/emotional aspects, other than the natural
>reactions one might have to odd visual experiences.
>
>Two examples that come to mind: palinopsia; formed visual
>hallucinations (e.g. with some disturbances of posterior
>cerebrovascular circulation).
>
>F. Frank LeFever, Ph.D.
>New York Neuropsychology Group
>
>
>
>
>In <3791BFDC.3784 at online.no> Tore Lund <tl001 at online.no> writes:
>>
>>In article <3790408A.2ED6 at online.no>, Tore Lund <tl001 at online.no>
>writes
>>>In the book "Complexity" by Roger Lewin (1993) [snip]
>>>
>>>   ...Chris felt he was living in the middle of a cube, the sides of
>>>   which were cinema screens with pictures projected on them.
>>>              (Beginning of chapter 8, page 151 in Phoenix ed.)
>>
>>Nick Medford wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't read the book, but the quote above sounds like he could be
>>> describing the depersonalisation/derealisation syndrome. [snip]
>>>
>>> These phenomena are currently the subject of research at the
>Institute
>>> of Psychiatry in London. You can get more info and references at our
>>> website:  http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/home/dpu/index.htm
>>
>>Thanks for the pointer, Nick.  There are quite a few references to
>>visual disturbances at this site.  Let's look at some of them:
>>
>>Anonymous:
>>
>>    "Get telescopic vision ... The people I was talking to began to
>turn
>>    into paper cutouts."
>>
>>Jennifer:
>>
>>    "My vision even feels like a 2-dimensional movie screen all of the
>
>>    time."
>>
>>Kerry:
>>
>>    "Suddenly, that surreal, dream-like quality returned, complete
>with
>>    altered depth perception..."
>>
>>The mini-FAQ:
>>
>>    "I really don't have any 3-D vision it seems. Everything appears
>>    flat."
>>
>>You and C_Thomas seem to doubt that Chris was actually seeing the
>world
>>as a cube with the world projected on its sides.  Taken together with
>>the quotes above, however, it seems to me that these people actually
>>have *visual* disturbances.
>>
>>Presumably, what happens is that patients of this sort come to a
>>specialist who is not interested in vision - and the vision
>specialists
>>never see these patients.  Hence these disturbances are never properly
>>studied and described.
>>
>>I repeat that I think these phenomena could tell us something about
>our
>>stereoscopic vision - because the distortions that can arise in a
>system
>>can tell us a lot about the nature of that system and rule out models
>>that don't allow for such distortions.
>>
>>Just a thought.
>>--
>>Tore Lund <tl001 at online.no>
>>
>





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