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stoney stoney at stoney.net
Tue Jul 20 11:29:03 EST 1999


"Ken Collins" <KPaulC at email.msn.com> wrote:

[>stoney wrote 
[>> "Ken Collins" <KPaulC at email.msn.com> wrote:
[>>
[>>[>stoney wrote ;
[>>[>>And there's the key point; "Religion has often been used
[>>[>>to justify terrible crimes against humanity."
[>>[>
[>>[>what about stuff like 'nuclear' weapons, "Love Cannals",
[>>[> "Big Brother", &c.?
[>>
[>>What about it?  You're mixing oranges and orangatangs here.
[>
[>nope... it's 'just' been the case that practicioners of both 'religion' and
[>'science' have been victims of 'the Beast', Abstract Ignorance... with
[>similar results.

?

[>as 'the Beasts' goes to breating it's last, i expect members of both groups,
[>along with everyone else, will transcend that which has been, tragically, in
[>the mix.

?

[>>[>it's not so easy to dillineate the wellspring of "terrible crimes
[>>[>against humanity" along the lines of "'religion'/'not-religion'".
[>>
[>>In the cases of Crusades and the Inquisition, you can.
[>>In the cases of Islamic jihads, you can.
[>
[>nope... it's not so be-cause you're perceptually-vigilant only with respect
[>to 'religion'... so your statement communicates only with respect to
[>yourself.
[>
[>>[>the problem has been that, in an absence of an understanding of how our
[>>[>nervous systems process inforation, folks have viewed all that's "self"
[>as
[>>[>"good" and all that's "not-self" as "bad".
[>>
[>>?
[>
[>that you've "moved away from" without having, first, understood,
[>substantiates that which you've "moved away from".

?

[>>[>so 'science' views itself as "good" and 'religion' as 'bad', and
[>'religion'
[>>[>views itself as 'good' and 'science' as 'bad'... when doing so is,
[>>[>verifiably, nothing more than prejudice toward that which is
[>>[>merely-familiar.
[>>
[>>?  Looks like a straw storm to me, Ken.
[>
[>be-cause you've chosen to not understand, you don't uderstand.

Uh, yeah.  You write gobbeldy gook and blame others for poor writing.

[>that you've "moved away from" without having, first, understood,
[>substantiates that which you've "moved away from".
[>
[>>[>>It also is used to turn honest citizens into crimminals,
[>>[>> mostly brother/sister theists, based on the insecurities,
[>>[>>ignorance and prejudice of the theist legislator.  Contrary to what
[>>[>> is often asserted both on alt.atheism and in real life, Christianity
[>>[>>does not generate morality.
[>>
[>>That last line should have read; Chistianity does not equal morality.

[snip word salad]

Stoney



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