M. McLeod wrote:
>> I know quite a number of atheists and they believe in nothing. Now you can
> pretend they have motives in their beliefs but you'd simply be wasting
> your brain. Most, whom I know, would say they can't be bothered with that
> foolishness and they really don't care. So do they have religion. I think
> not. I think these are the one and only true atheists. I think any atheist
> who gets into thinking about creation, etc., etc. is not a true atheist.
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People who worry that the Bible might be right are called christians,
or perhaps jews, a some muslims. Agnostics have so MANY alternatives to
worry about that they simply give up trying. They simply enjoy
speculating for amusement, since that's all it's good for.
-Steve
> Possibly that person would be an agnostic. I firmly think to have an
> atheist ng is silly as what's the point. In an agnostic thread various
> viewpoints can be given and the same would be true for any religious
> thread.
> MM...a reasonable guy
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What you have described is an agnostic. Agnosco in Latin means "I don't
know". It doesn't say WHAT you don't know. An atheist doesn't believe
in "God", and many atheists don't believe in any form of afterlife,
which certainty agnostics find presumptuous. Agnostics are SURE that
neither they nor anyone like them knows things for sure! This divine
ignorance is probably the ONLY thing one CAN be certain of.
-Steve
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>> On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
>> > On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:46:52 -0300, "M. McLeod" <mycloud at chebucto.ns.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I missed that "atheism is a faith" bit the first time I looked. Can't
> > >agree with you there. To have faith it has to be in something and an
> > >atheist believes in nothing.
> >
> > Nobody "believes in nothing". Atheist believe in a material universe
> > which is either eternal or arrose through "natural causes" (whatever
> > that means in the context). They believe in Occam's Razor.
> >
> > What is a religion? I'd say a set of beliefs about the origins of the
> > universe, who's running the show, what happens when we die. Atheists can
> > make positive statements about all these questions.