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Proof that ants are conscious?

Ken Collins KPaulC at email.msn.com
Tue Jul 20 00:38:13 EST 1999


you see, Frank, although i expect you'll be incredulous, most of what
happens in my life happens off bionet.neuroscience... and i just don't get
into it.

but i must proceed with respect to all of it. it makes doing anything a bit
difficult. i ache because i understand that this difficulty 'translates'
into 'incredulity' on the parts of others, but it's the 'hand i've been
dealt', and there's no way around playing it out... except for folks to meet
with me in-person, so that everything can be dealt with to everyone's
satisfaction, on the spot, without leaving any loose ends that can be
manipulated by unscrupulous folks.

F. Frank LeFever wrote in message <7n0shp$1m5 at dfw-ixnews13.ix.netcom.com>...
>In <uCyI1yV0#GA.352 at cpmsnbbsa03> "Ken Collins" <KPaulC at email.msn.com>
>writes:
>>
>>ORFNUGEN6 wrote in message
><19990718113519.04352.00002152 at ng-cf1.aol.com>...
>>>"Ken Collins" <KPaulC at email.msn.com> wrote:
>>>> the 'color blue' is precisely defined in terms of it's
>>>> electromagnetic spectrum, and the correlated energy-flow.
>>>
>>>Your problem is that you are confusing the cause
>>>with its effect.
>>
>>i used to (a couple of decades ago) uncritically take a similar
>approach,
>>and i carried it forward a bit, unquestioned, but it is naive.

if you look, Frank, youll see that the content of my approach has not
changed. i just realized that i wasn't stating things well enough in  the
'little-snippet 'time'' to which i'd been relegated.

>>
>
>- - - - - -(snip))- - - - - - - - -
>
>Ken, GET A JOB!
>
>Bad enough you miss his point entirely, but it is embarassing to see
>you pile the bologna deeper and deeper.  You still haven't a clue, have
>you?

Frank, if you've got something to say, speak right up. i don't guess. so,
have at it, if you think there's something to have at. tell me, what do you
think Mr. Lund's "point" was? How was his "point" not addressed in what i
posted?

How is what Mr. Lund posted not addressed in AoK?

AoK states that there is no "absolute =experiential= reality", which is what
i reiterated in my reply. it doesn't assert that there's no Objective
Physical Reality", which is what i also reiterated in my reply to Mr. Lund,
also admitting that it'd become clear to me that i'd not distinguished
clearly enough in some former statements. [i can, however, show anyone that
i long ago, in another online place [msgs long ago witnessed by 3rd parties]
worked to clear up the same point... i cannot post everything in every msg,
can i?]

everything within our bodies is 'just' energy-flowing, Frank... if you, or
anyone else, think(s) otherwise, then, kindly, propose a 'contradictory'
example.

until you do so, IMO, you're a cheap-shot artist... why, Frank, when no
presentation opportunity is made available? why jump on some incomplete
context and equate it to the whole thing? why, when there's so much tragedy
born in ignorance of what's been in AoK, and not formerly published, for so
long?

where is the Honor in such?

K. P. Collins
109 Grape St. Apt R
Chicopee, MA 01013
(413) 592-5516

[curiously, although i've repeatedly posted my address info, folks're
=still= trying to reach me via my elderly Father's address. it's causing him
undue stress. please stop such. but what address will anyone, then, be able
to use? KPC]





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