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Your Heart - Your Brain - Your Life - Don't Waste 'em . . .

Ken Collins KPaulC at email.msn.com
Mon Jul 19 20:58:14 EST 1999


despite what you've written, my position is worked through in great detail
that i'll gladly take, in-person, before any Scientists, anywhere.

so, if your disagreement is worth anything at all to you, i suggest that you
make an effort to bring about such a presentation opportunity, attend,
listen, think, then take your best shot.

won't do you any good, but at least the work will have been presented :-)

seriously, Steve, the things i've been discussing are the product of 29
years' devoted work. i've been discussing them in online Science places,
where very-knowledgable Scientists meet, for 11 years. No flaws in the
understanding have ever been pointed to by anyone. so the thing to do is to
understand, if you want to, before casting the work in some stereotype with
which you've become long familiar.

K. P. Collins

Steve wrote in message <379313EF.2BE0 at armory.com>...
>Ken Collins wrote:
>[loads of this crap]
>> but God's rewarding Faith does not, somehow, eliminate Free Will... folks
on
>> the other side of God's rewarding Faith always have opportunity, in-full,
>> not to be on the other side, through their own Free Wills.
>--------------------------------------
>If you have free-will, right now, this moment, change everything you
>believe and believe differently. Or believe just ONE THING differently
>than you prefer to. You cannot do it and you KNOW it!
>
>Free-will is a lie, a paradox that does not have an answer, and
>certainly not yours. Your sort of bullshit dictates that one requires
>"God's grace" in order to turn and become a believer, but one must
>believe to acquire grace, an impossible circularity.
>
>Humans imagine they have free will, when what they are is an active
>agent, but they do NOT control what they are, circumstances control
>their believes and actions, and these egos are just along for a ride on
>the meat-machine, the old baloney-pony!
>
>We can affect and consequently change each other, and not even in the
>way we wished to do, but we cannot really wish to change what we believe
>or in fact change it, as other external influences and awaiting internal
>processes do that and we have no control. Our ego wishes to pretend it
>does, but that's merely a failure of humility, of gumption, as are the
>prideful rantings of your bullshit religion.
>-Steve
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