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peppermill at my-deja.com peppermill at my-deja.com
Mon Jul 19 19:51:55 EST 1999


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<9781B40EBAA053AC.69C04EA5D0BF5DF1.F9ED482551D9056C at lp.airnews.net>,
  arslarga at mediaone.net wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:45:46 -0300, "M. McLeod"
> <mycloud at chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
>
> >I know quite a number of atheists and they believe in nothing. Now
you can
> >pretend they have motives in their beliefs but you'd simply be
wasting
> >your brain. Most, whom I know, would say they can't be bothered with
that
> >foolishness and they really don't care. So do they have religion. I
think
> >not. I think these are the one and only true atheists. I think any
atheist
> >who gets into thinking about creation, etc., etc. is not a true
atheist.
> >Possibly that person would be an agnostic. I firmly think to have an
> >atheist ng is silly as what's the point. In an agnostic thread
various
> >viewpoints can be given and the same would be true for any religious
> >thread.
> >MM...a reasonable guy
>
> This isn't far from true.  Just far enough off to be funny.
>
> What is assumed here is that religious subjects are the only thing to
> discuss.  Clearly that is not the case.
>
> One of the advantages of an atheist group (and one of the
> disappointments of these newsgroups) is that a preliminary sort has
> been done of the folks you're going to have a conversation with.  You
> can discuss free speech or church/state separation issues (very much
> on the minds of some now because of the Republican morons trying to
> shove their religion down the throats of our children) or the merits
> of a recent novel, without having to tolerate the rantings of someone
> who's going to drag their superstitious beliefs into it.
>
> Even atheists can long for community.  Quite a surprise, isn't it?
>
> Don
>
> BTW -- WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO NOT POST THESE DISCUSSIONS IN ALT.BRAIN
> OR BIONET.NEUROSCIENCE.  THIS WILL BE MY LAST POST THAT INCLUDES THOSE
> GROUPS AND ONLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF ASKING THAT WE RESPECT THEIR TOPICS
> AND RESTRICT THIS DISCUSSION TO THE ATHEIST AND AGNOSTIC NGS.

I would never question anyones right to support, oppose, or discuss
Political issues or anything else. But it does seem that these are
political issues and not just athiest issues. It doesnt't seem
meaningful or enlightening to call people morons. There are better
arguements. The religious right can be very irritating with their
agenda. But I get the impression that athiesta also have an agenda that
they consider the only way. There are some complicated questions
underlying these discussions. It has, at least been interesting.
>


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