In article <379311D1.3F5B at armory.com>,
Steve <rstevew at armory.com> wrote:
> Ken Collins wrote:
> >
> > stoney wrote in message <3792087d.12648219 at news.meganews.com>...
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > >Not only that, but the direct action taken by god in throwing
stones in
> > battle,
> > >the ordering of genocidal operations, and in hardening pharoh's
heart
> > eliminate
> > >free will.
> >
> > all you're saying is that, if one Believes in God, God rewards
Belief.
> >
> > when a corporation does the similar thing, what are the parameters
that the
> > corporation's choice, typically, hinges upon.
> >
> > relative 'loyalty' to the corporate profit-making plan.
> >
> > you 'deny' God the stuff that's 'Constitutionally guaranteed' by
mere
> > humans?
> >
> > before you can do so, successfully, you've first got to explain how
it is
> > that you can so dictate to God :-)
> >
> > all 'arugments', one way or the other, with respect to God come
down to this
> > one thing. folks in outside of 'religion' 'dictate to' God. so do
folks
> > within 'religion'.
> >
> > only thing is, God responds to True Faith, or lack of it.
> --------------------------------
> You keep rattling on with this stuff, asserting things you have NO WAY
> of knowing, and you imagine it's true because you like the sound of
your
> voice, or the keyboard keys, or something. If you really knew how much
> this sounds like the ravings of a deluded shamanistic primitive you'd
> probably shut up for good.
> -Steve
>> > and you know what? the one-way flow of energy from order to
disorder that is
> > what's described by 2nd Thermo (wdb2t) behaves, rigorously, in the
same way.
> >
> > wdb2t provides a unique 'map' of Truth... follow the 'map', find
Truth,
> > unfailingly.
> >
> > the only 'difficulty' inherent is that the 'map' can only be
followed
> > experientially... outside the realm of one's experience, one does
not
> > experience the 'map', so one cannot follow it until one draws one's
self up
> > experientially.
> >
> > it's what Faith is all about, and the one 'map' that's formed as a
result of
> > True Faith is the same 'map' that results from 'skeptical
inquiry'...
> > although most often, intervening experience is quite different. for
> > instance, if a 'skeptical inquirer' 'denies' God, then if God is
Truth, the
> > 'skeptical inquirer's' 'denial' of God simultaneously prevents the
> > 'skeptical inquirer' from finding Truth.
> >
> > in the same way, if 'religious zeal' results in one's 'denying'
Truth, one's
> > 'denial' of Truth simultaneously prevents one from finding God.
> >
> > but God's rewarding Faith does not, somehow, eliminate Free Will...
folks on
> > the other side of God's rewarding Faith always have opportunity, in-
full,
> > not to be on the other side, through their own Free Wills.
> >
> > again, it's all simple 'thermodynamics', around which there exists
no way.
> >
> > ken collins
> -------------------
> Ye Gods how you're trapped in your own bullshit! You imagine you have
> it all worked out or something, and you have no humility. Why do
> adolescents always embarrass themselves this way?
Oh wise one. I take it that you have certain knowledge that the shamans
are right about absolutly nothing. The logic of your own arguements is
impecable. :-/
Peppermill
> -Steve
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