stoney wrote in message <3792087d.12648219 at news.meganews.com>...
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>Not only that, but the direct action taken by god in throwing stones in
battle,
>the ordering of genocidal operations, and in hardening pharoh's heart
eliminate
>free will.
all you're saying is that, if one Believes in God, God rewards Belief.
when a corporation does the similar thing, what are the parameters that the
corporation's choice, typically, hinges upon.
relative 'loyalty' to the corporate profit-making plan.
you 'deny' God the stuff that's 'Constitutionally guaranteed' by mere
humans?
before you can do so, successfully, you've first got to explain how it is
that you can so dictate to God :-)
all 'arugments', one way or the other, with respect to God come down to this
one thing. folks in outside of 'religion' 'dictate to' God. so do folks
within 'religion'.
only thing is, God responds to True Faith, or lack of it.
and you know what? the one-way flow of energy from order to disorder that is
what's described by 2nd Thermo (wdb2t) behaves, rigorously, in the same way.
wdb2t provides a unique 'map' of Truth... follow the 'map', find Truth,
unfailingly.
the only 'difficulty' inherent is that the 'map' can only be followed
experientially... outside the realm of one's experience, one does not
experience the 'map', so one cannot follow it until one draws one's self up
experientially.
it's what Faith is all about, and the one 'map' that's formed as a result of
True Faith is the same 'map' that results from 'skeptical inquiry'...
although most often, intervening experience is quite different. for
instance, if a 'skeptical inquirer' 'denies' God, then if God is Truth, the
'skeptical inquirer's' 'denial' of God simultaneously prevents the
'skeptical inquirer' from finding Truth.
in the same way, if 'religious zeal' results in one's 'denying' Truth, one's
'denial' of Truth simultaneously prevents one from finding God.
but God's rewarding Faith does not, somehow, eliminate Free Will... folks on
the other side of God's rewarding Faith always have opportunity, in-full,
not to be on the other side, through their own Free Wills.
again, it's all simple 'thermodynamics', around which there exists no way.
ken collins
