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It's primitive; it's dumb; it's brittle--but it's AI.

F. Frank LeFever flefever at ix.netcom.com
Mon Jul 5 14:55:28 EST 1999


I wouldn't bother looking beyond the diagrams he posts from time to
time: they are "armchair" or "common sense" notions of how the brain
"should" be organized that show absolutely no sign of being influenced
by what we know of actual brain organization on the basis of
"experiments of nature" (e.g. lesions due to stroke), formal laboratory
studies, experimental cognitive psychology, etc., etc.

Seems to me I saw somebody's comment to the effect that AI systems do
not HAVE to mimic natural systems and can stand on their own; but
unless more novel/elegant/interesting as pure creations than these
simplistic diagrams seem to imply, I see no point in pursuing such
schemes even as a hobby or game...

F. Frank LeFever, Ph.D.
New York Neuropsychology Group







In <7llnrb$s2o$2 at 208.10.3.48> agent at siu.edu (Dustin Voss) writes: 
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>Any opinions on the below?
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>In article <3773cc31.0 at news.victoria.tc.ca>, uj797 at victoria.tc.ca
(Arthur
>T. Murray) wrote:
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>>http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/aisource.html Mind.Forth Robot PD AI
>>is nearing a 28th major Web release and meanwhile has been upload-
>>ed to the #43 "Programming" Files area of the Amiga-only Gramma's
>>BBS near Seattle WA USA at U.S. Tel. 425-744-1254 as shown here:
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>>Browsing the Programming library backwards from latest file.
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>>   File: 11352 KeyWords: Mind.Forth 25jun1999 Release 27+
>>Name: mind4th.lha      Size: 12912 bytes   Downloads: 0
>>From: ARTHUR_T_MURRAY  Date: 25 Jun 1999 10:06AM  Lib: Programming
>>==================================================================
>>[C]ontents [D]ownload [E]dit [K]ill [M]ark [N]on-Stop [Q]uit [?] >
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>>Mind.Forth is so near to completion that this interim release has
>>been undertaken as a safety measure, in defiance of any calamity.
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>>The AI is primitive because it has only enough features to demon-
>>strate thinking.  It is "dumb" inasmuch as it has barely any IQ.
>>It is extremely brittle because the slightest change in the code
>>can destroy the artificial mind crafted so painstakingly in Forth:
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>>  /^^^^^^^^^^^\ Mind-grid Arrays{ } in Mind.Forth /^^^^^^^^^^^\
>> /visual memory\                   _________     /  auditory   \
>>|      /--------|---------\       / LANG-UK \   |   memory      |
>>|      |  recog-|nition   |       \_________/---|-------------\ |
>>|   ___|___     |         | flush-vector|       |   ________  | |
>>|  /image  \    |     ____V_        ____V__     |  /        \ | |
>>| / percept \   |    /psi{ }\------/ uk{ } \----|-/ ear{ }   \| |
>>| \ engrams /---|---/concepts\----/ lexicon \---|-\ phonemes /  |
>>|  \_______/    |   \________/    \_________/   |  \________/   |




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