Hey, you guys, go away! This is a psychology group!
Don P. wrote in message <369CE4FC.2FD26FA9 at juno.com>...
|Richard Sargent wrote:
|
|> ZPE seems to be in defiance of what is earthly and that which
obeys the 'laws' and
|> generalizations postulated and tested by humans throughout this
age of technological
|> development.
|
| True, to an extent. In defiance of the *known* or
*disclosed*'laws' yes. Let's not
|forget that before the infamous MM's Null experiment,
|that many believed that an 'aether' (whatever that may be) permeated
|all of space. Even after MM's Null experiment, many still believed
there
|existed an aether, including Michelson himself.
|
| In light of this, the "comes from nowhere" or "just because"
explaination
|regarding where the 'virtual photon cloud' comes from that
surrounds
|an induced charge, is not "obeying" any law that I know of, and is
not
|an acceptable explaination by any means.
|
| The qauntum vacuum fluctuations/ZPE (or whatever) explaination of
|where these 'virtual photons' comes from, in my eyes just another
term
|for the Aether that permeates all of space.
|
| In a sense the ZPE/Aether is not in defiance with earthly laws,
without
|it there may not be what we call 'charge', among *many* other
things.
|
|> Getting something for nothing is a difficult thing to
conceptualize.
|
| Only semantically. Is there really such a thing as *no thing* in
spacetime.As far
|as I am concerned my solar calculator gets something for nothing.
|Of course I realize that just because I cannot SEE the photons, does
not imply
|that *no thing* is being used to power my calculator.
|
| Why can't we say the same about the ZPE/Aether? Just because
modern
|science has not publicly quantized the substance that IS the
ZPE/Aether,
|does not mean that it is *no thing*. It obviously is *some thing*.
|
| The day may come when pocket calculators are powered by the
ZPE/Aether,
|*similar* to the solar calculator today. Maybe this technology
already exists.
|Maybe this technology has existed for 50 or more years. To suggest
that it
|will NEVER exist, is in my opinion a poor speculation.
|
| I do not consider the ZPE/Aether as "nothing".
|
|> But perhaps there may very well be a cost, [when the means
necessary to unleash this
|> ubiquitous energy source is discovered.]
|
| Maybe, maybe not. This IS where the fun is!! ;)
|
|> Is anyone familiar with contemporary
|> research on Zero Point Energy?
|
| I have seen many theories of the ZPE/Aether at the web site (and
elsewhere)
|that I posted previously. I have read of accounts of utilizing the
ZPE/Aether
|as a fuel source, but all are very much out of the main stream of
science and
|not recognized as *real* science. I might add that most (if not all)
are NOT
|put up for inspection, which in my opinion may be good reason for
mainstream
|science not to recognize that the ZPE/Aether can be utilized as an
efficient fuel
|sourse.
|
| To answer you question, no. There is not much to find regarding
"contemporary
|research on Zero Point Energy" (that is easily accessible). If you
find some
|information, please pass it on. OTOH, I do remember reading patents
that described
|utilizing ZPE in some way, through a IBM Web patent server. I'll
will try to locate
|these url's and pass them along.
|
| However, It is my opinion that the Podkletnov experiment (and
it's
|duplications) do infact involve the ZPE/Aether. As far as I know
though,
|there is no information available that links the Podkletnov work
with
|the ZPE/Aether (other than my own work, and specualtions).
|
| My research involves the construction of a device that is
somewhat a
|*combination* of the work of Hans Coler's magnetostromapparat,
|the Podkletnov work, and the work of Floyd Sweet. The effects are
|spurious at best, and nothing to get excited about, yet.
|
|
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|Kind Regards
|Don Palermo
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