Frank, all I was doing was telling the guy where I thought Dr. Kandel could
be located... which was what the guy asked for.
My own first knowledge of "CREB" came just last night when, bored, I
followed a post in sci.cognitive to the Carnegie-Mellon "neuro-AI" page to
the Society for Neuroscience web site, where I found a little intro...
seems CREB is =really-big= these days... but the page missed the whole
point of "memory" formation... the necessity of all "memory" mechanisms to
maintain the topology of external energy gradients while bridging between
sensory & motor dynamics... I found the similar intro page devoted to the
cerebellum to be a real-laugher, BTW.
Your "concern" with =me= in the midst of a discussion pertaining to someone
as Distinguished as Dr. Kandel is ROFL-stuff...
...and guess what? I =still= stand on everything I've posted :-) ken
collins
F. Frank LeFever wrote:
> Even a clock that is no longer running will be exactly right twice a
> day.
>> Apparently kkollins is correct: the program does seem to have
> included a segment on Eric Kandel's work (as well as another segment,
> on the famous patient HM; I mention this because kkollins clipped this
> from the original post, leaving the rest of my comment mysterious to
> those who did not see it).
>> I say apparently, because I have not seen a response from anyone
> explicitly saying that he saw the program and can verify this; but the
> surmise (by another respondent) that what was heard as "kreb" was
> actually CREB seems reasonable.
>> For kkollins not to comment on the unlikelihood that Eric Kandel would
> be talking about the Krebs cycle in rodents, however, suggests that his
> knowledge of Kandel's work is nil, and he is just one of thousands
> millions?) who have heard or seen Kandel's name over the past 2-3
> decades.
>> re-shaping memory so that CREB comes out as Krebs cycle is
> understandable, but what about "in rodents"? Possibly Kandel did speak
> of his more recent mouse work, but maybe Aplysia was translated as "sea
> hare" and the listener/viewer heard "hare", thought hares were still
> classified as rodents, and therefore---!
>> Of the 12 posters with Kandel's name somewhere among the authors (at
> Society for Neuroscience a few weeks ago), only one of the Aplysia
> abstracts included a reference to CREB (none of the mouse abstracts
> did); CREB references in recent articles (4 yrs) in Medline were all in
> Aplysia papers, except one mouse paper looking at something "downstream
> from CREB-1". However, "CREB in rodents" may have been cited in that
> program--did anybody see it? (i.e. any accurate reporters?)
>> re my remarks about kkollins' willingness to speak on matters he
> scarcely understands: please apply them to more appropriate occasions
> past and future...
>> F. Frank LeFever, Ph.D.
> New York Neuropsychology Group
>> In <365CFDDB.8D5AE0AB at pop3.concentric.net> kkollins at pop3.concentric.net> writes:
> >
> >Mr. Frank, I =still= stand on what I posted. K. P. Collins
> >
> >F. Frank LeFever wrote:
> >
> >> In <365B56F4.3BA29111 at pop3.concentric.net>
>kkollins at pop3.concentric.net> >> writes:
> >> >
> >> >Mike wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> [...] If anyone does know the doctor. What school was he doing
> >> research
> >> >> at.
> >> >> How can I get ahold of him.
> >> >
> >> >Last I heard (years ago) Dr. Kandel was at Columbia, in New York
> City.
> >> ken
> >> >collins
> >> >
> >>
> >> Last I heard, Kandel-at-Columbia was still studying plasticity in
> >> small, well-defined neural systems, i.e. in Aplysia. My last
> hearing
> >> was not years ago but days ago. Of course, he could be gone by now
> >> (Thankgiving break?).
> >>
> >> Only kkollins great (self-pronounced) Compassion for the Children
> could
> >> make him time and time again subject himself to the Ridicule of
> >> =Whomoever= by Compulsively answering questions on topics he knows
> >> scarcely anything about--Generously exposing his Ignorance with no
> >> concern for his own =Well-Being= and the slings and arrows of
> outraged
> >> readers...
> >>
> >> Bytheway: krebs cycle in rodents or elsewhere is FAR removed from
> what
> >> Eric Kandel is studying. Sounds vaguely familiar; suspect it is a
> >> long-standing scam, seemingly new because of Discovery Channel
> >> desperation for topics.
> >>
> >> re HM: to be more precise, he had BILATERAL temporal lobe excision
> for
> >> intractable epilepsy. After his unfortunate example, only
> UNILATERAL
> >> excisions are used these days... (Now maybe kkkollins will respond
> as
> >> =Wisely= as he did when I contrasted unilateral and bilateral ECT).
> >>
> >> F. Frank LeFever, Ph.D.
> >> New York Neuropsychology Group
> >
> >
> >
