In article <Pine.PCW.3.96.981126134214.2127B-100000 at biolpc38.york.ac.uk>, DM Bolser <dmb106 at york.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 26 Nov 1998, Bloxy's wrote:
>>> In article <Pine.PCW.3.96.981124151639.6583B-100000 at biolvig31.york.ac.uk>, DM
> Bolser <dmb106 at york.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >
Ok, it will be granted.
>> >On Sun, 22 Nov 1998, Ray Scanlon wrote:
>> >
>> [...]
>> >
>> >What about enlightenment? That is the final jump out of the loop.
>>>> Nope. There is nowhere to jump out of.
>>>> > I think
>> >it is an important concept, and one that should not be sniffed at as
>> >religious nonsense. Godel proved that no system can describe reality
>> >completely accurately, so transcending the system is the only way to see the
>> >truth.
>>>> The very idea of "transcending" is stupid.
>> It is invented by the priest,
>> who knows full well, that it is impossible to "transcend" life.
>> That is how he makes you guilty.
>> You are trying to "tanscend" the untranscendable,
>> attempting to jump higher, than your own dick,
>> your entire life.
>>ER, I don't know how much about eastern mysticism you know, but most of
>the philosophies they epound are nothing to do with the guilt / opression
>thing we have going on in the west.
Because you are blind.
> I freely admit that eastern religion,
>just like western religion, has a basis in socal controll, but it is in
>the -get on with it- vein, not in the -you will pay for this- area.
Eastern religion sux as good, as western.
These are all organized cults of sucking.
First of all, there is no such a thing as eastern religion.
There were individuals that contributed significant insights,
but then came the followers and turned something original
into a cult of blind following something, nobody is even in
a condition to comprehend.
You see, once you have this holey [with holes] figure,
it is FASIONABLE to follow.
Not that you are ready to see ANYTHING, but you have been
told that this is the "right" thing to do. So you do it.
Because you are bound by fear [of survival] and HAVE to do
what others do, just to be safe, trying to git to the safest
place to be - the MIDDLE of the herd.
You put up religious face and pretend you know the holey
sucking truth. Your pious fat cheeks tell all about you.
> Many main stream eastern religions are just as bad as western
>ones, like large vehicle budism. But the smaller philosophies are not at
>all like that, small vehicle budism is a religion without a god.
It is either religion or philosophy.
You are playing with horseshit here at the moment.
Larger are "religions" and smaller are what?
"Philosophies"?
Then why are the larger ones are religions?
What makes it different?
Secondly, religion WITH god, or without god, is still the same
thing: a herd following each other.
A bunch of blind donkeys.
Jesus, Buddha, Mahavir, Patanjali, Socrates, Pythagoras,
Krishnamurti, Osho, Gurjieff, and many others all stood
on their own. They were not following ANY religion or
"philosophy".
And so called philosophy is just a mind fuck.
Never answered a single question on anything.
All it can do is to raise new questions.
>>>> And you KNOW it in the depths of your being.
>> So all you have left with is guilt,
>> as you can not "concure" you simpliest motivations,
>> such as sex and food.
>>>>Fukk guilt.
Huh?
You know what you just said?
You said you are a blind monkey ass,
totally incapable of seeing the depth of anything.
How can you fuck guilt?
It is in your blood stream.
It is in your brain conditioning from the day 1,
no matter what culture you are from.
You think you can fuck it?
Well, either you have tremendous courage,
or you are more stupid than a dead cock roaches ass.
> that is not what they are about.
Who?
> A line from the Tow te ching
>goes -
>'He who spends all his time in virtue is not virtious, because he spends
>all his time in virtue.'
And what is virtue on the first place, sucker?
>It is all about knowing there is right and wrong, and balancing those in
>your self.
And now you really disclose your empty nature.
"Right" and "wrong"?
