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Toward a Science of Consciousness 1998

Stephen Harris mulcyber at pacbell.net
Sat Apr 25 17:27:39 EST 1998


> >Anyway.  The "causal operations" which make computers worth money to
> >a business are outside the computers themselves.(modlin)
> 
> No, I disagree.  They are in the computer.(NR)

This question is off the beaten track, but this looks like an
opportune moment to sneak it in.

I was reading about those mainframes which calculate many digits
of pi. Maybe a billion digits in nine hours, anyway a lot.

I think I recall reading that the output will differ slightly
from one model computer running the pi algorithm to another.
Even I think if two of the same make and model are used.

I am not sure for the reason behind this. Suppes has said
something about: If a system has two or more degrees of
freedom the system will be subject to sensitivity to initial
conditions. So I am thinking in the pi calculation situation
that due to random electronic or magnetic eddies perhaps
from impurities in the components, this causes the divergence
in the output of pi.

I have read something about this but am not sure I understood it,
so would like clarification. I think Turing may have made a
comment about this to a schoolteacher. He studied dynamic systems
in 1951.

So I wonder if some AI system, emulating a human, experienced
an internal random fluctuation, might this cause an output if
it happened at the right moment that could drastically differ
from an expected human output? Say in answering a question.

I have also heard about the need for a randomness generator for
an AI system. Is this already inherent in the physical system? 

I think I have read about the equivalency of CAs NNs indeterministic
turing machines to turing machines. They can all be simulated
because they are all 'computable'. Is this right?

Also I read a comment(not sure of its reliability) that connectionist
models challenge the idea that turing machines are the only type
of physically realizable computer. I'm not sure I worded that 
right so answer what it is supposed to mean. :-)

Finally, about analog chips. Apparently, high frequency discrete
responses will not sufficiently model analog human brain processes.
Is that right? I see this analog issue coming up frequently. It
seems to me that I have seen noise mentioned as a problem.

Best Regards,
Stephen



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