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cijadra

Stephen Harris mulcyber at pacbell.net
Sun Apr 19 22:56:33 EST 1998


cijadra at zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
> 
> Stephen Harris <mulcyber at pacbell.net> wrote:

> >You do not understand there is no such thing as sorcery, magick
> 
> Of course there is. As I said, you are just too dumb to get it.

Maybe so. I studied Crowley, Regardie, Franz Bardon and others.
I have never met anybody who can *do* anything. It is all in
the imagination and by that I mean no physical consequences.
You cannot *do* anything either. Just delusional talk.

> Wiccas in the USA are generally a religion.
> They are not like the witches in Germany.

There are no witches in Germany nor anywhere else.
Just people who call themselves that or other labels.

> Wiccans in the USA usually do not know about magical arts.

There are no magical arts. There are no spirits. I mean there
is nothing related to this that actually exists.

> > You seem to be proud that you read a book written
> >by a money-grubber and have swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

> I am very glad I found his books, I heard he got complaints from
> practicers of magic from several continents, and I can see why.
> There is data that can lead to suicide and data that can lead to
> immense powers in there, and it tends to be custom that such data is
> only transferred if the receiver is thought far enough.
> Fortunately most US-Americans and even some Germans are so
> mind-bogglingly dumb, that they do not reckognize the data-security
> breach that he has done, and fortunately he was intelligent enough to
> construct his books in a way that there is data left out in a very
> wise way.

There was never data in there in the first place. This series
of books was occult science fiction. There was no Don Juan.
Anyone who objected to this book had no clue about sorcery,
or any occult, religious, paranormal understanding, because
there is no such thing.
> 

> >Castaneda nor any shaman, past present or future is real.
> >Nothing occult is real. No gurus are real. They are either
> >deliberate fakes like Casteneda or gullible fakes like gurus.

> Sure, they are all just phantoms, people's imagination, ethey were
> never born, never lived and never carried the data of thousands of
> years of human research into the mind, physics., plants or/and other
> areas.

People have been called different things. But they are not special;
just ordinary people who have built on people's superstitions.
> Let me ask you a basic questions:
> 
> 1.:How does Carlos Castaneda's "seeing" work?
> 
It doesn't. There is no such thing. 

> 2.: Using that way to perceive and describing what is within half a
> meter around the head & body of a shaman and someone who is not
> knowing how to extend fields/ how to do magick,
> what would you say are the differences / similarities (of that area
> from his skin to half a meter away)

There is no such thing as projected auras. There is no manipulation
of energy fields. That talk is superstitious nonsens. 
> 

> Excuse me, but a real practicer of the senses the Christians forbade
> is not overlooked easily.
> You switch to energy perception and attempt to scan his energy
> structure.

There is no such thing as reading auras. Nor are their halos or
angels. Don't get the idea I am a Christian. 
> 
> Maybe you simply never met a practicer of magick, but if you ever meet

No, I have not met one. Nor will I ever because they do not exist.
There are merely people who claim it, like yourself who can do nothing.



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