sci.med.aids Censorship

John Gentile yjgent at cox.net
Mon Jun 24 22:40:24 EST 2002

At the huge risk of feeding the troll I have to try to respond to
knuckleheaded stupidity.

Tom, look at the science of virology back in the early 70's. They had just
discovered and proved that indeed they found a virus that could cause a
cancer. That was big news.

The state of the science back then had no way of manipulating any virus -
they hardly knew what the DNA or RNA sequencing went.

This has been told over and over again, but you militant  anti-science hate
mongers will not see the truth for your lies. Read the texts of the time,
read the scientific journals of the time and learn from it.

John Gentile                            President,  Rhode Island Apple Group
yjgent at cox.net                      RIAG Web page:  www.wbwip.com/riag/
"I never make mistakes, I only have unexpected learning opportunities!"

> From: "Thomas Keske" <tkeske at attbi.com>
> Organization: AT&T Broadband
> Newsgroups: bionet.microbiology
> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 16:25:38 GMT
> Subject: sci.med.aids Censorship
>> Thank you for your submission to sci.med.aids. Your posting has not
>> been accepted for posting based on a vote by the moderators, who have
>> the concerns explained below.
>> Moderator Marty Howard <martinjh at marty-howard.com> voted No for this
> reason:
>> This is the "moderator fiat/not this again" reason.  Who knows why it
>> was voted down?  Maybe you can figure it out.  Maybe the moderator
>> is sick of this topic.  Frequently, the moderator is thinking that
>> this article provides no new information.  If you can't figure it out,
>> send mail to the individual moderator or to aids-request at cs.ucla.edu.
>> Moderator Bennett <njb35 at mole.bio.cam.ac.uk> voted No for the same reason.
> I figured out a long time ago why sci.med.aids will not publish
> an obviously legitimate viewpoint. It systematically censors every
> single article that dares suggest that any aspect of the
> AIDS epidemic and its origins might be suspicious or worthy
> of investigation, in any way.  It matters not all if the article is
> accurate,
> factual, well-documented and presented in dignified manner.
> It is rank and outrageous censorship by arrogant, game-playing
> moderators who abuse their powers, to permit only their own
> politically-correct, bland, reassuring views.
> A United States Congressman made a call for the origins
> of AIDS to be investigated. By doing so, he forced the
> United State General Accounting Office to make a
> response.    He made that call, just this year.  It is not "old news".
> It has not been widely publicized You cannot pretend that it is
> something that is not of relevance or interest to people with AIDS,
> regardless of their viewpoints.
> Freedom of expression is under attack on the supposedly "free"
> internet.   The contemptible behavior of the sci.med.aids moderators
> is only one method and one example of that attack.   When the full
> dimensions of the scandal become apparent, it is my sincere hope
> that these individuals will someday find themselves as tarnished,
> widely spotlighted, and as unpopular as pedophile priests.
> Tom Keske
> ===============================================
> Below is a copy of a letter sent recently from the U.S. General
> Accounting Office, to a U.S. Congressman, denying that the
> AIDS Virus was originally created or manipulated as part of the
> massive "Special Virus Cancer Program" in the 1970s, and
> introduced into the U.S. gay population.
> U.S. Representative Traficant of Ohio had joined in a call for
> the investigation of the question.   Traficant has been a controversial
> figure in the Congress, and a target of accusations of ethical
> misconduct.
> However, as it has often been the case concerning the gay-rights
> movement, or in the case of former President Clinton,
> accusations can sometimes be selectively brought forward, in
> atmosphere of more general corruption, for the sake of
> political motivations.
> It is possible for a cause to be perfectly legitimate, even if the
> advocates for the cause may be less than perfect.  It is a positive
> development that any United States Congressman has managed
> at least to raise the question in a public forum.
> The question of whether HIV was in any way modified genetically,
> or was merely discovered, is not so important as the question of
> whether it had been intentionally introduced to gay men through
> contaminated vaccines, administered in an unprecedented,
> government-sponsored program, immediately before the first
> visible outbreak of the epidemic in the United States.
> There is compelling evidence to suggest that this was in fact
> the scenario:
> http://www.bhc.edu/eastcampus/leeb/aids/aidtesk.htm
> The current  concerns regarding biological terrorism should make us
> reconsider the lingering questions, concerning whether the AIDS epidemic
> is really a natural phenomenon, or was an earlier example of covert
> assault, rooted in the same type of madness and human cruelty that
> now confront us.
> Tom Keske
> Boston, Mass.
> ==========================================================================
> United States General Accounting Office
> Washington, DC 20548
> June 17, 2002
> The Honorable James A. Traficant, Jr.
> House of Representatives
> Subject: Origin of the AIDS Virus
> Dear Mr. Traficant:
> In response to your request to review an individual's allegations that the
> National
> Cancer Institute's Special Virus Cancer Program (SVCP) created the AIDS
> virus, we
> obtained information on (1) the overall stated purposes and outcomes of
> SVCP, (2)
> scientific assessments of the origins of the AIDS virus (HIV-1) and any
> possible
> evidence regarding the origins of the AIDS virus at SVCP, and (3) the
> outcome of
> recent litigation regarding the origins of the AIDS virus. On June 13, 2002,
> we briefed
> your staff on the results of our analysis. The enclosed slides formed the
> basis of the
> briefing we presented.
> To address our objectives, we consulted experts on HIV/AIDS and on SVCP,
> reviewed
> SVCP progress reports and summaries as well as documents that allege SVCP
> created
> the AIDS virus. In addition, we obtained information on recent litigation
> involving the
> individual's allegations. In summary, we did not find evidence to support
> the
> allegation that SVCP created the AIDS virus. Comments from the National
> Cancer
> Institute on a draft of the briefing slides concluded that they are
> historically and
> scientifically accurate.
> We are sending copies of this report to the Secretary of Health and Human
> Services
> and the Acting Director of the National Cancer Institute. We will also make
> copies
> available to others on request. In addition, the report will be available at
> no charge on
> the GAO Web site at http://www.gao.gov. Please contact me at (202) 512-7119
> if you
> have any questions. The major contributor to this report was Lawrence S.
> Solomon.
> Sincerely yours,
> Janet Heinrich
> Director, Health Care ???Public Health Issues
> Enclosure

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