Proced./White Ct/Self-Help

Dilworth bactitech at hortonsbay.com
Sat Feb 3 17:32:08 EST 2001

Personally, I'd bite the bullet and return to my urologist.  Microbiology is not
something you do "off-the-cuff" nor is cell counting.  We all went to school a
long time to do this stuff.

Perhaps you might seek a second opinion of a second urologist, especially if "live
with it" seems too final.  I personally don't know anything about chronic
prostatis, and cannot understand how a few well-placed needles will lower a white
cell count.  Maybe my background in medicine is just too Western.

Good luck.

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP)
Microbiology 26 years

kuriyama at my-deja.com wrote:

> John- The condition is chronic prostatitis.  Prostatic fluid is examined
> for total white cell count.  I have gone to a urologist who has done the
> testing.  He indicated I have a total white cell count of 20-25 - he
> indicated that it should be less than 5 - preferrably 0.  He indicated it
> is bacterial.  Antibiotics are not recommended due to the problems of
> antibiotics getting within the prostate - essentially he indicated I must
> live with it.  I went to a oriental physician (acupuncture/herbal).  She
> is doing treatment, but it is difficult to determin how well we are
> accomplishing our goal - she asked me if I can get another total white
> count of the prostatic fluid.  The only way that this can be done is by
> doing it myself.  There are two articles in PUBMED concerning oriental
> medicine and chronic prostatitis - one on acupuncture and the other is a
> chinese herbal called 8-ingredient pill - these treatments have had
> some success.  This is the only microbiology I ever plan to get involved
> with - forced by necessity - I am just asking for some guidance-  Randy

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