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PileUp woes

RYBICKI, ED ED at molbiol.uct.ac.za
Fri Sep 2 03:02:31 EST 1994


To:           bochet at bobby
From:         "RYBICKI, ED"  <ED at molbiol.uct.ac.za>
Date:         Fri, 2 Sep 1994 09:39:29 SAST-2
Subject:      Re: picture in pileup
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> When I run PILEUP (on VMS) and when it does not produce the 
alignmemt because
> it has to introduce "too many gaps", the picture of the tree is 
lost as well.
> In my understanding of the algorithm, this picture is produced 
just after the
> pairwise comparisons, that is before the proper alignment starts. 
Does anybody 
> know of a way to keep this picture even when the alignment fails?

Yes - don't use PileUp...!  Use CLUSTALV: in my experience this is 
better for alignments where what you're trying to align are much the 
same length as each other, AND it gives you a dendrogram in tabular 
form from the initial pairwise alignment scores which you can 
use to draw a real tree (PileUp just calculates a pretty-looking 
UPGMA tree from the same pre-multiply aligned info).  HOWEVER, 
Clustal goes further in that you can then calculate a 
neighbour-joining tree from MULTIPLY aligned sequence pairwise 
comparisons (a whole lot more accurate - all the gaps are in the 
same places in each sequence relative to any other).  You should be 
able to get it for VAX and for MAC and for PC 
at the EMBL site.

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