The text of the De Angelis commentary is at
An abstract of the Nonnemaker paper is at
> >Comments about equality vs. equity, or about the study??
>> I don't want to believe that equality will NEVER be possible, but I
> understand the need to work for equity first. In fact, I think equality
> flow naturally out of equity. Maybe I'm getting old and cynical, but I for
> one am sick and tired of people pointing to labs with 30-50% female postdocs
> and a few jr professor hires and saying that this means women now have equal
> opportunity. Part I'm frustrated because its taken too long to get just
> this far, in my opinion, and partly I'm frustrated because many people seem
> content to stop at opportunity itself-whether its equal or not. Dr. De
> Angelis's comment, without even reading the study, strikes me as spoken from
> the trenches, and perhaps a realistic assessment of what we can do in our
> lifetimes would heal some of the burnout and frustration.
>> Or is it better to strive for the highest goal despite the burnout?
>> Julia Frugoli
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