Lyle McDonald <lylemcd at onr.com> wrote in message
news:385708F3.7B7A at onr.com...
> Bill R wrote:
> >
> > pathos wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <385626D5.4786 at erols.com>, Stuart Dunn <dunns99 at erols.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Protein intakes far above 100g increase the risk of
> > > > kidney failure, and certain types of protein, such as egg white
protein
> > > > and casein, increase the amount of calium that is removed from the
> > > > bloodstream by the kidneys. In extreme cases, this causes kidney
stones.
> > > > If that calcium that is lost is not properly replaced (from milk,
> > > > calcium pills, or food), osteoperosis will result.
> > >
> > > Sounds to me like this can be substaintiated with a paper or two. You
> > > state is a fact and it may be a fact but let the studies decide that.
> >
> > The person above is failing to consider that for a valid
> > comparison, all other parameters should be the same:
> > same total calcium, same total phosphorus.
> >
> > I bet that is not so in whatever study he is looking at.
> >
> > In any cases, the demographic group with the highest
> > bone mineral density -- namely, weightlifters -- also
> > is one with among the highest protein intakes. So it
> > certainly is not true that high protein diets *will*
> > cause calcium loss.
> >
> > This would be apparent to anyone capable of even
> > a modicum of thought.
>> All I'll say is that the vegan/anti-protein folks really need to look
> at more current reseearch. The protein-calcium loss is far from
> proven and recent research suggests that the early studies suggesting
> kidney damage were drawing false conclusions.
>> They might want to check out the paper:
> Millward, DJ. "Optimal intakes of protein in the human diet" Proc
> Nutr Soc (1999) 58: 403-413.
>> Rather than quoting from 20 year old books.
I could draw an amazing correlation between the vegan cultist mentality and
certain, rarely effective forms of training.
Eric
Cthulhu in 2000
Why vote for a lesser evil?
