[Apologies if you already got this but the gremlins were in the
college mail system last weekend and it never appeared on my bionet
list -C.]
On 12 Mar 98 at 6:30, Caroline J. Walker <walkerc at CLEMSON.EDU> wrote:
>We are buying an FPLC and are comparing the Biorad Biologic system with the
>Pharmacia FPLC system. There are some small differences on the specs and
>the prices are about the same so we could use either. What I would like to
>hear is if anyone has feedback on how easy either of these systems is to
>use. Is the Pharmacia software (OS/2) OK, or is the Windows 95 with the
>Biorad better? How are the leaks? Design faults?? Reliability? Service?
> Would be happy to hear any comments.
>Thanks,
>Caroline
For your consideration:
Our lab took delivery of a Biorad Biologic system about 18 months ago
to compliment a 10 year-ish old Pharmacia FPLC system. Now the older
system was a manual one with a basic gradient controller and a
hardcopy-only UV output so the comparison is a little uneven.
Both systems have their good and bad points. The more recently
designed Biologic has more user friendly tubing connections, column
grips, etc. which makes setup and rearrangments easier, especially
putting connectors on tubing. Its also very easy to use non-Biorad
columns with the supplied connection adaptors. Changing buffers is
also much quicker than the Pharmacia system.
But not all is perfect. As another poster mentioned, air bubbles are
a pain. Unlike the Pharmacia system, the buffer uptakes are light and
springy and must be carefully positioned to avoid popping out of the
liquid. The long and spongy nature of the intake covers mean that
they draw air down to the inlet even when there's several cm of
buffer covering them (this obvious design blip may have been
corrected by now). The upshot is that air enters the pumps. In the
Pharmacia system, the pump chambers are made of glass which makes
spotting major air problems easy - a quick buffer change will usually
cure the problem. The enclosed nature of the Biologic pumps means
that you only spot air bubbles when the flow to your column is
irregular and your fractions are all different volumes!! Again, a
buffer change should do the trick but you won't be sure until you run
the column again!! TIP: Air bubbles can also appear in the UN monitor
chamber after buffer exits the column even when you're sure you've
degassed well. However, this is easily solved by installing the
supplied little gizmo for maintaining back pressure at this point.
The air bubble susceptability is a drawback of the Biologic but it is
avoidable once you become familiar with the system's foibles. It
could be a problem though if the machine is going to be used by a
large number of people who won't always be familar with its pitfalls.
I can't give a comparison of the two software packages because I have
only seen that of the Biologic but I'll make some comments on that.
The Biologic software is based on Microsofts Access database app and
the first impression is of a nice neat layout which new users should
find easy to learn and intuitive to use. But (there's always a but)
again its not perfect. Inputing and saving a gradient program is easy
and quick but, once done, if you make any changes, you must save them
as a new protocol which soon leads to an excessive no. in the
database (Minor complaint). More fustratingly though, oncw you've
clicked 'Run' and a gradient operation is in progress, you can't do
anything else with the application (e.g., copy the data from a
previous run to a floppy for inclusion with that report that's due
first thing tomorrow!) and you can't run another application (e.g.
Excel) for processing you data while the Biolgic app is running.
This, I think, is pretty crappy.
Again, the software may have been improved since we got our
package (which was a (rather slow) 486 processor running Win3.1).
As I said, I have no idea what the Pharmacia software is like to use.
For a dedicated desktop machine attatched to lab equipment, I
wouldn't worry about the OS however. Even if IBM decided to throw
OS2 in the bin tomorrow the software installed on your machine will
still work and will still do the job as well or as badly as it would if
OS2 had 95% of the market. Well established fact: the quality of a
computer OS is completely unrelated to its popularity! If they want
to stay in business, Pharmacia will still support their software
and all those other OS2 users are out there too (you are out there,
aren't you?). I presume, though I don't actually know, that
transferring data from the FPLC software to, say, a spreadsheet on a
Mac or a Wintel has been thought of and is pretty straightforward but
maybe I'm being naive!
Some more thoughts:
The Biologic has a more logical layout and a smaller 'footprint' which
is important if room is limited.
Biorad supplies/parts are generally cheaper than Pharmacia's but that
may be a different story in your part of the world.
Reliability/Servicing: The FPLC is still functional after 10+ years
of postgrad abuse though it has had some surgery. The Pharmacia
service guy was, I think, surprised that it was still going. The Biologic
has only been here 18 months and has not been in constant use but
as yet, has been well behaved.
I'm tired now. I think I'll stop.
Cheers,
C.
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Cormac Shaw, BSc, |
Dept. of Industrial Microbiology, | mailto:Cormac.Shaw at ucd.ie
University College Dublin, | phone: +353 (1) 706 1307
Dublin 4, Ireland | fax: +353 (1) 706 1183
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