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Cereoid* cereoid at prodigy.net
Thu Nov 22 08:15:04 EST 2001

Just another example of what a rat bastard that Spike Hernandez really is.

He claims to be protecting his GardenWeb subscribers from spammers while he
SELLS list of their e-mail addresses to spammers.

Phaius <mycmax at attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:476L7.170578$ez.22190305 at news1.rdc1.nj.home.com...
> Well the only reason to care is that the orchid online community seems to
> get around to the few forums that exist so we all seem to know what's
> on where except for the poor newbies who find their way to GW first and
> stuck there because no one there is allowed to mention the existence of
> other forums. Some of them never seem to get that the (probable) reason
> are getting email spam is because they registered on Spike's site. Spike
> posts a long diatribe on how he has to keep spam out of the site "for
> benefit" when he claims the right to sell their email addresses (he said
> could do anything he wanted with the content of his site since it all
> belonged to him). Then you get some twit who posts about how he really is
> happy Spike is watching out for them and excluding spammer posts because
> he's getting 100s of spam emails a day as it is!
> Does anyone think that simple banner adds really work? I don't even see
> anymore.
> "paghat" <paghatSPAMMERSDIE at netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:paghatSPAMMERSDIE-2111011511170001 at soggy72.drizzle.com...
> > In article <ZsVK7.167997$ez.21703354 at news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>, "Phaius"
> > <mycmax at attglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I had the gall to ask him on the forum why he claimed copywrite to the
> > > photos that contributors posted to GW. He pulled that post and when I
> asked
> > > again and also asked what his policy was on selling member's email
> addresses
> > > to focused web advertising agencies he not only pulled the post and
> banned
> > > me but banned my whole server from posting to GW.
> > >
> > > He's a control freak and he lies to the people who are still there
> his
> > > motives.
> >
> > Well, that's why unmoderated UseNet newsgroups exist -- so you can say
> > what you want, whether good bad wicked or boring -- & control freaks &
> > wussies can whine at you but they can't censor you. An individual's
> > e-list, bulletin board, or moderated newsgroup cannot be regarded as
> > speech environments. So your choice is always to risk the occasional
> > flamer or troll by respecting free speech, or go hang out with a bunch
> > retards & never say anything that makes the Master Of Ceremonies go all
> > wussy & vengeful.
> >
> > Such anti-free-speech environments have their purpose -- polite places
> > milquetoast braindead crashing bores, or safe havens for kids whose
> > parents might not want them on no-holds-barred newsgroups, plus I
> > merely commercial lists that only pretend to care what your opinion is
> > when they actually only want your money. If you don't fit the apropos
> > categories however, why even care about such outlets enough to get up in
> > arms over some control freak who sits in a litter box pretending to be
> > king of a mountain?
> >
> > -paghat the ratgirl
> >
> > --
> >
> > "Here dwell souls that did neither evil nor good."
> > -Inferno

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